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	<title>Comments on: The Irrelevancy of the UN Correction</title>
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		<title>By: Varda Epstein</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/109894/#comment-106330</link>
		<dc:creator>Varda Epstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 23:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1) The Jews ARE innocent of all those claims insofar as Gazans use human shields and shoot missiles from inside schools and hospitals. 
2) It was necessary to stop the incessant missiles emanating from Gaza, from Hamas. 
2) Even the UN knows we didn&#039;t kill that boy, couldn&#039;t cover up the truth, much as they would love to do so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) The Jews ARE innocent of all those claims insofar as Gazans use human shields and shoot missiles from inside schools and hospitals.<br />
2) It was necessary to stop the incessant missiles emanating from Gaza, from Hamas.<br />
2) Even the UN knows we didn&#039;t kill that boy, couldn&#039;t cover up the truth, much as they would love to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Sevitt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/109894/#comment-106328</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Sevitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How odd that you would claim that this report concludes that &quot;Jews are declared innocent, exonerated&quot;. Have you read the report? It brings great shame on our soldiers and their officers.

11. OHCHR‟s findings raise a number of concerns with regard to the IDF‟s respect for. 
the basic rules on the conduct of hostilities, including distinction, proportionality and. 
precautions in attack.

1. Killing of civilians.
2. Destruction of residences and incidental killing of civilians.
3. Destruction of other civilian property.
4. Media (Israeli attacks killed two cameramen travelling in a car marked as a press vehicle, and. 
injured at least eight journalists.)
5. Destruction of medical facilities.
6. Destruction of other infrastructure.
7. Other humanitarian issues.

I suggest you actually read the report you think is exonerating our soldiers before writing another &quot;we&#039;re great, they&#039;re not&quot; puff piece.

http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/HRBodies/HRCouncil/RegularSession/Session22/A.HRC.22.35.Add.1_AV.pdf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How odd that you would claim that this report concludes that &quot;Jews are declared innocent, exonerated&quot;. Have you read the report? It brings great shame on our soldiers and their officers.</p>
<p>11. OHCHR‟s findings raise a number of concerns with regard to the IDF‟s respect for.<br />
the basic rules on the conduct of hostilities, including distinction, proportionality and.<br />
precautions in attack.</p>
<p>1. Killing of civilians.<br />
2. Destruction of residences and incidental killing of civilians.<br />
3. Destruction of other civilian property.<br />
4. Media (Israeli attacks killed two cameramen travelling in a car marked as a press vehicle, and.<br />
injured at least eight journalists.)<br />
5. Destruction of medical facilities.<br />
6. Destruction of other infrastructure.<br />
7. Other humanitarian issues.</p>
<p>I suggest you actually read the report you think is exonerating our soldiers before writing another &quot;we&#039;re great, they&#039;re not&quot; puff piece.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/HRBodies/HRCouncil/RegularSession/Session22/A.HRC.22.35.Add.1_AV.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/HRBodies/HRCouncil/RegularSession/Session22/A.HRC.22.35.Add.1_AV.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tamar Alexander</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/109894/#comment-105316</link>
		<dc:creator>Tamar Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 22:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not really Sabra adn Shatilla was a christina retaliatin for the Damour Massacare of christina by palestnian .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not really Sabra adn Shatilla was a christina retaliatin for the Damour Massacare of christina by palestnian .</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Singh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/109894/#comment-105124</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who made, and more importantly, who interpreted the charter mandate? the white western world..... which controlled the UN at the time. In a fully representative UN, the partition would have been shot down]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who made, and more importantly, who interpreted the charter mandate? the white western world&#8230;.. which controlled the UN at the time. In a fully representative UN, the partition would have been shot down</p>
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		<title>By: Leo Raikhman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/109894/#comment-105122</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo Raikhman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ravi, you don&#039;t actually know any part of any history or law, do you?

Are you aware that the UN has no right to either create or destroy states?

What the UN voted on was the partition plan as per its Charter mandate. The establishment of the State of Israel was performed by the Jewish administration the day after the vote. Then other states acknowledged it under the Montevideo Convention.

The UN vote was merely icing on the cake.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ravi, you don&#039;t actually know any part of any history or law, do you?</p>
<p>Are you aware that the UN has no right to either create or destroy states?</p>
<p>What the UN voted on was the partition plan as per its Charter mandate. The establishment of the State of Israel was performed by the Jewish administration the day after the vote. Then other states acknowledged it under the Montevideo Convention.</p>
<p>The UN vote was merely icing on the cake.</p>
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		<title>By: Varda Epstein</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/109894/#comment-104994</link>
		<dc:creator>Varda Epstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Koen Pauwels It&#039;s like what Potter Stewart said about hard-core porn, it may be hard to define, but I know it when I see it.

The same is true of democracy.

Countries that put on TV shows like this one: http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2009/10/17/ayrilik-the-turkish-tv-drama-that-israel-dont-want-you-to-see-video/

are not democracies. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Koen Pauwels It&#039;s like what Potter Stewart said about hard-core porn, it may be hard to define, but I know it when I see it.</p>
<p>The same is true of democracy.</p>
<p>Countries that put on TV shows like this one: <a href="http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2009/10/17/ayrilik-the-turkish-tv-drama-that-israel-dont-want-you-to-see-video/" rel="nofollow">http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2009/10/17/ayrilik-the-turkish-tv-drama-that-israel-dont-want-you-to-see-video/</a></p>
<p>are not democracies. </p>
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		<title>By: Varda Epstein</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/109894/#comment-104992</link>
		<dc:creator>Varda Epstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Koen, there&#039;s an expression: pretty is as pretty does. Turkey doesn&#039;t act like a democracy. Not long ago, Israelis flocked to Turkey as a vacation spot. Now they don&#039;t. There&#039;s a reason for that. Things have changed. Turkey was once a democracy. Today that&#039;s debatable. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Koen, there&#039;s an expression: pretty is as pretty does. Turkey doesn&#039;t act like a democracy. Not long ago, Israelis flocked to Turkey as a vacation spot. Now they don&#039;t. There&#039;s a reason for that. Things have changed. Turkey was once a democracy. Today that&#039;s debatable. </p>
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		<title>By: Koen Pauwels</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/109894/#comment-104990</link>
		<dc:creator>Koen Pauwels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[looking forward to that too. Still, it is a slippery slope, refusing to call a 50+ year functioning democracy a democracy just because you disagree with its policies. I have the same problem with people that refuse to call Israel or the US a democracy. In your case, you could defend the use of &#039;liberal democracy&#039;, but even that is not the term you used.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looking forward to that too. Still, it is a slippery slope, refusing to call a 50+ year functioning democracy a democracy just because you disagree with its policies. I have the same problem with people that refuse to call Israel or the US a democracy. In your case, you could defend the use of &#039;liberal democracy&#039;, but even that is not the term you used.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Singh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/109894/#comment-104970</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Move on Bill..... Egypt did not recognise Israel in 1967... it does after 1979]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Move on Bill&#8230;.. Egypt did not recognise Israel in 1967&#8230; it does after 1979</p>
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		<title>By: Varda Epstein</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/109894/#comment-104982</link>
		<dc:creator>Varda Epstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian John Thomas To my mind, the only thing we can do is continue to convince readers to engage in critical thinking. It can only be a long hard haul. People like to be spoon-fed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian John Thomas To my mind, the only thing we can do is continue to convince readers to engage in critical thinking. It can only be a long hard haul. People like to be spoon-fed.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Singh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/109894/#comment-104976</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are talking about Israel, so thats why Im throwing stones as you call it..... Talk about my country and see the stones I throw.... we are all the same. the only difference between you and me is that I understand I and my country are imperfect, you dont.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are talking about Israel, so thats why Im throwing stones as you call it&#8230;.. Talk about my country and see the stones I throw&#8230;. we are all the same. the only difference between you and me is that I understand I and my country are imperfect, you dont.</p>
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		<title>By: Varda Epstein</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/109894/#comment-104980</link>
		<dc:creator>Varda Epstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Brian. I goofed on the date. However, I don&#039;t see that confronting the journalists does any good. Invariably, Jew and Israel hatred win out. Yeah. Some people cry out. But it always blows over. 

Look at what happened here as a case in point: http://abszurdisztan.tumblr.com/post/45427553925/uk-mp-suspended-for-blaming-jail-term-on-jews

&#039;Finkelstein had asked in a tweet why BBC radio had not picked up the Ahmed story in its news summaries.

Responding to the tweet, White said: “I agree it’s a stinker and typical of double standards. Pity about the illegal settlements though. Best wishes.”

A bemused Finkelstein asked White what the settlements had to do with it, to which White replied: “A lot. Whenever one types ‘double standards’ about tendentious Muslim claims those Israeli settlements start waving too.”&#039;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Brian. I goofed on the date. However, I don&#039;t see that confronting the journalists does any good. Invariably, Jew and Israel hatred win out. Yeah. Some people cry out. But it always blows over. </p>
<p>Look at what happened here as a case in point: <a href="http://abszurdisztan.tumblr.com/post/45427553925/uk-mp-suspended-for-blaming-jail-term-on-jews" rel="nofollow">http://abszurdisztan.tumblr.com/post/45427553925/uk-mp-suspended-for-blaming-jail-term-on-jews</a></p>
<p>&#039;Finkelstein had asked in a tweet why BBC radio had not picked up the Ahmed story in its news summaries.</p>
<p>Responding to the tweet, White said: “I agree it’s a stinker and typical of double standards. Pity about the illegal settlements though. Best wishes.”</p>
<p>A bemused Finkelstein asked White what the settlements had to do with it, to which White replied: “A lot. Whenever one types ‘double standards’ about tendentious Muslim claims those Israeli settlements start waving too.”&#039;</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Singh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/109894/#comment-104972</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If itr makes any difference.... for the record, I dont worship any idol, 15 armed or not:I love eating cows in more ways than you do... I also eat pigs, you must try them also, Im sure you&#039;ll love the bacon.
If the UN of 55 odd country&#039;s had not voted to do so there would have been no Israel... Creation or partition is irrelevant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If itr makes any difference&#8230;. for the record, I dont worship any idol, 15 armed or not:I love eating cows in more ways than you do&#8230; I also eat pigs, you must try them also, Im sure you&#039;ll love the bacon.<br />
If the UN of 55 odd country&#039;s had not voted to do so there would have been no Israel&#8230; Creation or partition is irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Singh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/109894/#comment-104968</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 16:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dov Blair Epstein You are entitled to whatever opinion you hold about my country... its a free world..... but why do you in turn get so hot under the collar when you hear an opinion about your country, which you dont agree with ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dov Blair Epstein You are entitled to whatever opinion you hold about my country&#8230; its a free world&#8230;.. but why do you in turn get so hot under the collar when you hear an opinion about your country, which you dont agree with ?</p>
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		<title>By: Varda Epstein</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/109894/#comment-104988</link>
		<dc:creator>Varda Epstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 16:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe when, for instance, Turkey stops being the leading world jailor of journalists. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe when, for instance, Turkey stops being the leading world jailor of journalists. </p>
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