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		<title>By: Miriam Erez</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/hey-israeli-left-hows-that-bitter-cynicism-working-out-for-ya/#comment-124426</link>
		<dc:creator>Miriam Erez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 19:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent piece. I do have a few remarks: Firstly, if it&#039;s the better-educated and wealthier who are leaving, it&#039;s  because they can. But I think it goes deeper than that: Wherever one is, the wealthier, educated classes are by definition more cosmopolitan: They have ties outside the borders of their countries of residence (I just xlated a piece related to this fact], whereas the lower-income, less educated often do not. Notice I haven&#039;t even gotten to the left / right thing yet.

As I blogged once, I came knowing that stuff costs more here. So it&#039;s not the lower standard of living per se that drives me round the bend, it&#039;s knowing that it&#039;s partly due to government policy, i.e., thus far $30 billion poured into the settlement enterprise, for which there&#039;s no justification, and that&#039;s just for starters. It&#039;s frustrating and even angering. But I too refuse to be bitter.

Lastly, riight-wingers tend to be more uncritically patriotic than us left-wingers, hence they tend not to entertain thoughts of moving. I knew that eventually someone on this comment list would call you a self-hating Jew. No one could be less self-hating than you. Moreover, often as a leftist I have to remind myself, saying the words aloud: &quot;Hey. I love this land, and I HAVE A RIGHT to love this land.&quot;  I don&#039;t believe that this is a sh_t country. I&#039;m optimistic, perhaps naively. Good to know I&#039;m in good company.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent piece. I do have a few remarks: Firstly, if it&#039;s the better-educated and wealthier who are leaving, it&#039;s  because they can. But I think it goes deeper than that: Wherever one is, the wealthier, educated classes are by definition more cosmopolitan: They have ties outside the borders of their countries of residence (I just xlated a piece related to this fact], whereas the lower-income, less educated often do not. Notice I haven&#039;t even gotten to the left / right thing yet.</p>
<p>As I blogged once, I came knowing that stuff costs more here. So it&#039;s not the lower standard of living per se that drives me round the bend, it&#039;s knowing that it&#039;s partly due to government policy, i.e., thus far $30 billion poured into the settlement enterprise, for which there&#039;s no justification, and that&#039;s just for starters. It&#039;s frustrating and even angering. But I too refuse to be bitter.</p>
<p>Lastly, riight-wingers tend to be more uncritically patriotic than us left-wingers, hence they tend not to entertain thoughts of moving. I knew that eventually someone on this comment list would call you a self-hating Jew. No one could be less self-hating than you. Moreover, often as a leftist I have to remind myself, saying the words aloud: &quot;Hey. I love this land, and I HAVE A RIGHT to love this land.&quot;  I don&#039;t believe that this is a sh_t country. I&#039;m optimistic, perhaps naively. Good to know I&#039;m in good company.</p>
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		<title>By: Miriam Erez</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/hey-israeli-left-hows-that-bitter-cynicism-working-out-for-ya/#comment-124428</link>
		<dc:creator>Miriam Erez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 19:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent piece. I do have a few remarks: Firstly, if it&#039;s the better-educated and wealthier who are leaving, it&#039;s  because they can. But I think it goes deeper than that: Wherever one is, the wealthier, educated classes are by definition more cosmopolitan: They have ties outside the borders of their countries of residence (I just xlated a piece related to this fact], whereas the lower-income, less educated often do not. Notice I haven&#039;t even gotten to the left / right thing yet.

As I blogged once, I came knowing that stuff costs more here. So it&#039;s not the lower standard of living per se that drives me round the bend, it&#039;s knowing that it&#039;s partly due to government policy, i.e., thus far $30 billion poured into the settlement enterprise, for which there&#039;s no justification, and that&#039;s just for starters. It&#039;s frustrating and even angering. But I too refuse to be bitter.

Lastly, riight-wingers tend to be more uncritically patriotic than us left-wingers, hence they tend not to entertain thoughts of moving. I knew that eventually someone on this comment list would call you a self-hating Jew. No one could be less self-hating than you. Moreover, often as a leftist I have to remind myself, saying the words aloud: &quot;Hey. I love this land, and I HAVE A RIGHT to love this land.&quot;  I don&#039;t believe that this is a sh_t country. I&#039;m optimistic, perhaps naively. Good to know I&#039;m in good company.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent piece. I do have a few remarks: Firstly, if it&#039;s the better-educated and wealthier who are leaving, it&#039;s  because they can. But I think it goes deeper than that: Wherever one is, the wealthier, educated classes are by definition more cosmopolitan: They have ties outside the borders of their countries of residence (I just xlated a piece related to this fact], whereas the lower-income, less educated often do not. Notice I haven&#039;t even gotten to the left / right thing yet.</p>
<p>As I blogged once, I came knowing that stuff costs more here. So it&#039;s not the lower standard of living per se that drives me round the bend, it&#039;s knowing that it&#039;s partly due to government policy, i.e., thus far $30 billion poured into the settlement enterprise, for which there&#039;s no justification, and that&#039;s just for starters. It&#039;s frustrating and even angering. But I too refuse to be bitter.</p>
<p>Lastly, riight-wingers tend to be more uncritically patriotic than us left-wingers, hence they tend not to entertain thoughts of moving. I knew that eventually someone on this comment list would call you a self-hating Jew. No one could be less self-hating than you. Moreover, often as a leftist I have to remind myself, saying the words aloud: &quot;Hey. I love this land, and I HAVE A RIGHT to love this land.&quot;  I don&#039;t believe that this is a sh_t country. I&#039;m optimistic, perhaps naively. Good to know I&#039;m in good company.</p>
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		<title>By: Eli Philip</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/hey-israeli-left-hows-that-bitter-cynicism-working-out-for-ya/#comment-80734</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli Philip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 04:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is not. 
Also, I&#039;d be very interested in seeing that study. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is not.<br />
Also, I&#039;d be very interested in seeing that study. </p>
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		<title>By: Eli Philip</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/hey-israeli-left-hows-that-bitter-cynicism-working-out-for-ya/#comment-80732</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli Philip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 04:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A million Israelis didn&#039;t march in the streets demanding social change because of Shelly. They marched because the neo-liberal economic policies of Netanyahu and the Likud are hurting almost every Israeli citizen. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A million Israelis didn&#039;t march in the streets demanding social change because of Shelly. They marched because the neo-liberal economic policies of Netanyahu and the Likud are hurting almost every Israeli citizen. </p>
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		<title>By: John Hill</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/hey-israeli-left-hows-that-bitter-cynicism-working-out-for-ya/#comment-80730</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 04:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow. Yet another leftist idiot emerges from the Times&#039; dungeon of self-hating Jewish bloggers. &quot;These are tough times for those of us who wish to see the occupied territories handed over to Palestinians, in a deal that will bring them a state and us peace and quiet.&quot; Yeah...like the &quot;peace and quiet&quot; Israel got from Gaza, after withdrawing and uprooting all its Jews? Like the &quot;peace and quiet&quot; Israel got from Yasser Arafat and his intifadas after signing the disgraceful Oslo Accords? And what about that little map Abbas has in his office - you know, the one which shows his &quot;state&quot; as encompassing ALL of Israel, with Arab city names replacing Israeli ones? Mind-numbing stupidity. Let&#039;s just hope he leaves with the other leftist fools.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Yet another leftist idiot emerges from the Times&#039; dungeon of self-hating Jewish bloggers. &quot;These are tough times for those of us who wish to see the occupied territories handed over to Palestinians, in a deal that will bring them a state and us peace and quiet.&quot; Yeah&#8230;like the &quot;peace and quiet&quot; Israel got from Gaza, after withdrawing and uprooting all its Jews? Like the &quot;peace and quiet&quot; Israel got from Yasser Arafat and his intifadas after signing the disgraceful Oslo Accords? And what about that little map Abbas has in his office &#8211; you know, the one which shows his &quot;state&quot; as encompassing ALL of Israel, with Arab city names replacing Israeli ones? Mind-numbing stupidity. Let&#039;s just hope he leaves with the other leftist fools.</p>
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		<title>By: Levi Kofman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/hey-israeli-left-hows-that-bitter-cynicism-working-out-for-ya/#comment-79716</link>
		<dc:creator>Levi Kofman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 08:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trotsky, kaganovitch and many other founding fathers of the left were also old yeshiva bochurs. You&#039;re right at home...don&#039;t feel lonely. And Rika, first of all the lsraeli leftists of old would be considered right-wingers by today&#039;s post zionist left. Secondly it was Winston Churchill who credited Menachem begin and the Irgun for kicking great Britian out of mandatory palestine...not bad for a little nation building.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trotsky, kaganovitch and many other founding fathers of the left were also old yeshiva bochurs. You&#039;re right at home&#8230;don&#039;t feel lonely. And Rika, first of all the lsraeli leftists of old would be considered right-wingers by today&#039;s post zionist left. Secondly it was Winston Churchill who credited Menachem begin and the Irgun for kicking great Britian out of mandatory palestine&#8230;not bad for a little nation building.</p>
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		<title>By: Noah Efron</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/hey-israeli-left-hows-that-bitter-cynicism-working-out-for-ya/#comment-79504</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah Efron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 10:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this, Danny.  It&#039;s uplifting (as what you write and say always is).  I think a new politics is emerging here -- the summer before last was too big and too powerful not to represent something real and important -- and that&#039;s why the old defeatism breaks my heart.  Fact is, I love this place, believe in it, and am optimistic about the future.  This, despite the huge and durable problems and challenges we need to meet before this place can be healthy home to all the people and peoples who need to share it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, Danny.  It&#039;s uplifting (as what you write and say always is).  I think a new politics is emerging here &#8212; the summer before last was too big and too powerful not to represent something real and important &#8212; and that&#039;s why the old defeatism breaks my heart.  Fact is, I love this place, believe in it, and am optimistic about the future.  This, despite the huge and durable problems and challenges we need to meet before this place can be healthy home to all the people and peoples who need to share it.</p>
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		<title>By: Abbi Adest</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/hey-israeli-left-hows-that-bitter-cynicism-working-out-for-ya/#comment-79502</link>
		<dc:creator>Abbi Adest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 07:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m really trying not to be cynical but, seriously? What wars have you ended? I haven&#039;t heard about the last helicopter lift from Kabul or Baghdad.  The healthcare reform you passed only put billions of dollars more into the pockets of private insurers without offering true healthcare security to the American people. The finance industry continues to roll along without any real regulation with the teeth to prevent another meltdown. Dream away about the labor movement, but it doesn&#039;t stand a chance against the billions spent on special interests on the Hill. 

The issues between right and left here are so fundamentally different. It&#039;s nice to imagine this rising tide of progressive strength but that&#039;s not really relevant here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m really trying not to be cynical but, seriously? What wars have you ended? I haven&#039;t heard about the last helicopter lift from Kabul or Baghdad.  The healthcare reform you passed only put billions of dollars more into the pockets of private insurers without offering true healthcare security to the American people. The finance industry continues to roll along without any real regulation with the teeth to prevent another meltdown. Dream away about the labor movement, but it doesn&#039;t stand a chance against the billions spent on special interests on the Hill. </p>
<p>The issues between right and left here are so fundamentally different. It&#039;s nice to imagine this rising tide of progressive strength but that&#039;s not really relevant here.</p>
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		<title>By: Abbi Adest</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/hey-israeli-left-hows-that-bitter-cynicism-working-out-for-ya/#comment-79500</link>
		<dc:creator>Abbi Adest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 07:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Get a better opportunity at what? It&#039;s pretty widely acknowledged that Bibi&#039;s economic policies have been a raging success. Shelli if offering something better?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get a better opportunity at what? It&#039;s pretty widely acknowledged that Bibi&#039;s economic policies have been a raging success. Shelli if offering something better?</p>
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		<title>By: Omer Tene</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/hey-israeli-left-hows-that-bitter-cynicism-working-out-for-ya/#comment-79404</link>
		<dc:creator>Omer Tene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 02:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for sharing this Danny. Great piece indeed. More difficult than anything else in Israel today is facing the defeatism of a group with such economic, academic and ultimately political clout.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing this Danny. Great piece indeed. More difficult than anything else in Israel today is facing the defeatism of a group with such economic, academic and ultimately political clout.</p>
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		<title>By: Rika Chaval</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/hey-israeli-left-hows-that-bitter-cynicism-working-out-for-ya/#comment-79400</link>
		<dc:creator>Rika Chaval</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 01:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chaiya, how would they know, leftist are the ones who built this country. You rightist keep re-writing history, but you aren&#039;t fooling anyone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chaiya, how would they know, leftist are the ones who built this country. You rightist keep re-writing history, but you aren&#039;t fooling anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Weitzner</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/hey-israeli-left-hows-that-bitter-cynicism-working-out-for-ya/#comment-79390</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Weitzner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 00:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wonderful piece, Noah! Writing from what is about four weeks shy of the beginning of President Barack Obama&#039;s second term, I do think there&#039;s a path of hope for the progressive community. What I observed, largely from working with an extraordinary group of progressive activists on the Obama 2008 campaign and then into the first term was a rival on the left of a sense that we could actually get things done. Some part of this was leadership from people at the top. Along with that (and I&#039;m going to sound old here) is a renewed optimism from progressive people who were either too young or not involved in the defeatist and very depressing politics of the 1970s and 1980s. I don&#039;t know about others, but my political upbringing during that people of time was pretty depressing (Reagan&#039;s deregulation, contempt for government, confusing and alienating rise of the Christian RIght, I could go on). 

The result of the new-found energy in the US progressive movement has been health care reform, ending wars, the real possibility of immigration reform, and even progress on Internet freedom and privacy. :-) Having won another election, there balance of the US judicial system will also be saved from what would have been a radical shift to the right on women&#039;s rights and a number of other constitutional questions. Even the assumed-dead labor movement in the US has seen a real resurgence in this climate and was a huge part of the 2012 election victory. Of course, some on the left will decry the compromises inherent in lots of what the Obama progressives have accomplished, but that&#039;s no reason for despair.

To continue the analogue to the critique you develop of the Israeli left, leftists in the US mostly didn&#039;t consider the stark choice of leaving the US outright, but did, in significant part, adopt the same sort of &quot;I’ll-take-my-ball-and-leaveism: you cite by adopting political postures that were so far from viability that they might has well have left. Support for Nadar in 2000 (sorry to piss people off, but...) is but one example. I recognize this a genuine and honest frustration with a difficult, sometimes corrupt and often exasperatingly-diverse and divisive political environment. But it is the same sort of defeatism you write about.

I thought that there was a lot of hope from the tents movement in the summer of 2011. Perhaps I was wrong, or perhaps that still needs time to deepen. I saw an extraordinary cross-generational coalition emerge in the US progressive community over the last 5 years, bring a really powerful combination of energy, optimisms and wisdom. I truly hope there are seeds of that to be found and nurtured in Israel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful piece, Noah! Writing from what is about four weeks shy of the beginning of President Barack Obama&#039;s second term, I do think there&#039;s a path of hope for the progressive community. What I observed, largely from working with an extraordinary group of progressive activists on the Obama 2008 campaign and then into the first term was a rival on the left of a sense that we could actually get things done. Some part of this was leadership from people at the top. Along with that (and I&#039;m going to sound old here) is a renewed optimism from progressive people who were either too young or not involved in the defeatist and very depressing politics of the 1970s and 1980s. I don&#039;t know about others, but my political upbringing during that people of time was pretty depressing (Reagan&#039;s deregulation, contempt for government, confusing and alienating rise of the Christian RIght, I could go on). </p>
<p>The result of the new-found energy in the US progressive movement has been health care reform, ending wars, the real possibility of immigration reform, and even progress on Internet freedom and privacy. <img src='http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Having won another election, there balance of the US judicial system will also be saved from what would have been a radical shift to the right on women&#039;s rights and a number of other constitutional questions. Even the assumed-dead labor movement in the US has seen a real resurgence in this climate and was a huge part of the 2012 election victory. Of course, some on the left will decry the compromises inherent in lots of what the Obama progressives have accomplished, but that&#039;s no reason for despair.</p>
<p>To continue the analogue to the critique you develop of the Israeli left, leftists in the US mostly didn&#039;t consider the stark choice of leaving the US outright, but did, in significant part, adopt the same sort of &quot;I’ll-take-my-ball-and-leaveism: you cite by adopting political postures that were so far from viability that they might has well have left. Support for Nadar in 2000 (sorry to piss people off, but&#8230;) is but one example. I recognize this a genuine and honest frustration with a difficult, sometimes corrupt and often exasperatingly-diverse and divisive political environment. But it is the same sort of defeatism you write about.</p>
<p>I thought that there was a lot of hope from the tents movement in the summer of 2011. Perhaps I was wrong, or perhaps that still needs time to deepen. I saw an extraordinary cross-generational coalition emerge in the US progressive community over the last 5 years, bring a really powerful combination of energy, optimisms and wisdom. I truly hope there are seeds of that to be found and nurtured in Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Weitzner</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/hey-israeli-left-hows-that-bitter-cynicism-working-out-for-ya/#comment-79392</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Weitzner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 00:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wonderful piece, Noah! Writing from what is about four weeks shy of the beginning of President Barack Obama&#039;s second term, I do think there&#039;s a path of hope for the progressive community. What I observed, largely from working with an extraordinary group of progressive activists on the Obama 2008 campaign and then into the first term was a rival on the left of a sense that we could actually get things done. Some part of this was leadership from people at the top. Along with that (and I&#039;m going to sound old here) is a renewed optimism from progressive people who were either too young or not involved in the defeatist and very depressing politics of the 1970s and 1980s. I don&#039;t know about others, but my political upbringing during that people of time was pretty depressing (Reagan&#039;s deregulation, contempt for government, confusing and alienating rise of the Christian RIght, I could go on). 

The result of the new-found energy in the US progressive movement has been health care reform, ending wars, the real possibility of immigration reform, and even progress on Internet freedom and privacy. :-) Having won another election, there balance of the US judicial system will also be saved from what would have been a radical shift to the right on women&#039;s rights and a number of other constitutional questions. Even the assumed-dead labor movement in the US has seen a real resurgence in this climate and was a huge part of the 2012 election victory. Of course, some on the left will decry the compromises inherent in lots of what the Obama progressives have accomplished, but that&#039;s no reason for despair.

To continue the analogue to the critique you develop of the Israeli left, leftists in the US mostly didn&#039;t consider the stark choice of leaving the US outright, but did, in significant part, adopt the same sort of &quot;I’ll-take-my-ball-and-leaveism: you cite by adopting political postures that were so far from viability that they might has well have left. Support for Nadar in 2000 (sorry to piss people off, but...) is but one example. I recognize this a genuine and honest frustration with a difficult, sometimes corrupt and often exasperatingly-diverse and divisive political environment. But it is the same sort of defeatism you write about.

I thought that there was a lot of hope from the tents movement in the summer of 2011. Perhaps I was wrong, or perhaps that still needs time to deepen. I saw an extraordinary cross-generational coalition emerge in the US progressive community over the last 5 years, bring a really powerful combination of energy, optimisms and wisdom. I truly hope there are seeds of that to be found and nurtured in Israel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful piece, Noah! Writing from what is about four weeks shy of the beginning of President Barack Obama&#039;s second term, I do think there&#039;s a path of hope for the progressive community. What I observed, largely from working with an extraordinary group of progressive activists on the Obama 2008 campaign and then into the first term was a rival on the left of a sense that we could actually get things done. Some part of this was leadership from people at the top. Along with that (and I&#039;m going to sound old here) is a renewed optimism from progressive people who were either too young or not involved in the defeatist and very depressing politics of the 1970s and 1980s. I don&#039;t know about others, but my political upbringing during that people of time was pretty depressing (Reagan&#039;s deregulation, contempt for government, confusing and alienating rise of the Christian RIght, I could go on). </p>
<p>The result of the new-found energy in the US progressive movement has been health care reform, ending wars, the real possibility of immigration reform, and even progress on Internet freedom and privacy. <img src='http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Having won another election, there balance of the US judicial system will also be saved from what would have been a radical shift to the right on women&#039;s rights and a number of other constitutional questions. Even the assumed-dead labor movement in the US has seen a real resurgence in this climate and was a huge part of the 2012 election victory. Of course, some on the left will decry the compromises inherent in lots of what the Obama progressives have accomplished, but that&#039;s no reason for despair.</p>
<p>To continue the analogue to the critique you develop of the Israeli left, leftists in the US mostly didn&#039;t consider the stark choice of leaving the US outright, but did, in significant part, adopt the same sort of &quot;I’ll-take-my-ball-and-leaveism: you cite by adopting political postures that were so far from viability that they might has well have left. Support for Nadar in 2000 (sorry to piss people off, but&#8230;) is but one example. I recognize this a genuine and honest frustration with a difficult, sometimes corrupt and often exasperatingly-diverse and divisive political environment. But it is the same sort of defeatism you write about.</p>
<p>I thought that there was a lot of hope from the tents movement in the summer of 2011. Perhaps I was wrong, or perhaps that still needs time to deepen. I saw an extraordinary cross-generational coalition emerge in the US progressive community over the last 5 years, bring a really powerful combination of energy, optimisms and wisdom. I truly hope there are seeds of that to be found and nurtured in Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Levy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/hey-israeli-left-hows-that-bitter-cynicism-working-out-for-ya/#comment-79310</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh brother, have you got it wrong. My Judaism might be dissimilar to yours, but it isn&#039;t felt any less deeply. My Zionism is not expansionist, but I love my country just as you do. I haven&#039;t a clue what you mean by jettisoning Judaism, Zionism, and/or Secular Humanism, especially since it would appear that you see them as some sort of lower rungs on a scale or lesser positions of some kind.

What is this Judaism of yours that you talk about? What is your true Zionism, pray tell? I ask in the frankest possible sense, with malice towards none, as Lincoln would say. Would you answer me in the same manner?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh brother, have you got it wrong. My Judaism might be dissimilar to yours, but it isn&#039;t felt any less deeply. My Zionism is not expansionist, but I love my country just as you do. I haven&#039;t a clue what you mean by jettisoning Judaism, Zionism, and/or Secular Humanism, especially since it would appear that you see them as some sort of lower rungs on a scale or lesser positions of some kind.</p>
<p>What is this Judaism of yours that you talk about? What is your true Zionism, pray tell? I ask in the frankest possible sense, with malice towards none, as Lincoln would say. Would you answer me in the same manner?</p>
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		<title>By: Zach Rosen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/hey-israeli-left-hows-that-bitter-cynicism-working-out-for-ya/#comment-79308</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach Rosen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;To be a leftist is a sickness...to be a right-wing is reactionary...&quot;Someone once told me]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;To be a leftist is a sickness&#8230;to be a right-wing is reactionary&#8230;&quot;Someone once told me</p>
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