It is all about reality, not rhetoric. You can say what you want but my response will be to prove what you say. Your predictable response will be to minimize legitimate history and accept the wildest claims of the anti-Zionists. The textbooks of the PA explain that King David built his kingdom upon Palestinian lands, and that Joshua fought the Canaanites and Palestinians to establish ancient Israel. That nonsense is what you and Tikkun-types are endorsing and what Israel is facing, all while the adversaries on this thread debate the accuracy and subtleties of various adjectives.

At this point, there's no difference between American judaism and any other progressive-liberal-socialist political party. Obama got >78% of the American jewish vote. His cabinet is rife with "Secular jews". That has to be my favorite; "Secular Judaism"; "I'm jewish but I don't believe in god." The hypocrisy is breath-taking.

American jews are at the center of every mis-guided "Social Justice" special interest group that calls for MORE government and socialist/fascist-type control of our citizenry. These same groups regularly protest Israel and call for divestment of the "apartheid state", which is the only democracy in he Middle East and must protect itself from homicidal muslim Jihad every day.

Go back and read your history; there are astonishing correlations between the fall of the Weimar republic and Hitler's democratic rise to power as the leader of the socialist party, and what Obama and the socialists are doing in America now. And if you think "That can't happen here", it's already happened.

Adolph Hitler and Amin Al Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Palestine met several times in Berlin 1942, and Hitler fielded several divisions of muslim SS Troops in europe against allied forces.

Obama helped the Muslim Brotherhood take power in Egypt. Hammas is the military wing of the Muslim Brotherhood. Any foreign aide we give to the Muslim Brotherhood eventually makes its way to Hamas. CAIR is the publicity wing of Hamas. Huma Abdine is Hillary Clinton's Senior Aide. Her parent's are founding members of the Muslim Brotherhood in the USA. Draw the obvious conclusions.

I never thought I'd live to see the day that Christians of all denominations around the world are stronger, more vocal supporters of Israel than American Jews. It's embarrassing. American Jews are paving the way to their own destruction; everywhere I look I see American Jews working hand-in-hand with America's and Israel's enemies. You may not like what I'm saying, but you can't deny it.

No it doesn't. If it is so "explicit", show us some evidence.

It was a land grab, otherwise the wall would have been built on the green line.

Which was EXACTLY the justification made by the Apartheid governments of South Africa. How ironic that you did not seem to know that. You rather undermined your own argument.

With Ben Gurion's blessing. Why did you not mention that?

He would say that wouldn't he. Of course the word "Apartheid" is entirely appropriate in the West Bank where two legal systems apply depending on ones ethnicity.