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	<title>Comments on: I’ll tell you who Tzipi Livni is: a compelling alternative to Bibi Netanyahu</title>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Cox</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/ill-tell-you-who-tzipi-livni-is-a-compelling-alternative-to-bibi-netanyahu/#comment-108794</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 16:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[peace will only come from a plan and the two peoples accepting each other. &#039;no more war&#039; could just be a time of quiet but peace is something long term involving agreed solutions to the dispute.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>peace will only come from a plan and the two peoples accepting each other. &#039;no more war&#039; could just be a time of quiet but peace is something long term involving agreed solutions to the dispute.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Weixelbaum</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/ill-tell-you-who-tzipi-livni-is-a-compelling-alternative-to-bibi-netanyahu/#comment-108798</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Weixelbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ehud Olmert was correct in his speech to Kadima voters that you should vote Kadimaand not Livni to ensure Kadima gets in to the Knesset.  I couldn&#039;t care less as I hope to see neither of them in, but if Kadima just misses the threshold, double-yay!  1 for Kadima not passing the threshold and another for them stealing maximum possible votes from Livni]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ehud Olmert was correct in his speech to Kadima voters that you should vote Kadimaand not Livni to ensure Kadima gets in to the Knesset.  I couldn&#039;t care less as I hope to see neither of them in, but if Kadima just misses the threshold, double-yay!  1 for Kadima not passing the threshold and another for them stealing maximum possible votes from Livni</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Isser Coopersmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Isser Coopersmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like you said, she&#039;s an egoist.  IMO, that&#039;s the only reason she&#039;s there.  Of course it&#039;s possible she&#039;s trying to torpedo Kadima for revenge.  BTW, the only thing I like about Alon Tal is his fiddle playing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like you said, she&#039;s an egoist.  IMO, that&#039;s the only reason she&#039;s there.  Of course it&#039;s possible she&#039;s trying to torpedo Kadima for revenge.  BTW, the only thing I like about Alon Tal is his fiddle playing.</p>
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		<title>By: Herbert Kaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herbert Kaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 02:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tzipi Livni is a compelling alternative to Haneen Zoabi. Tzipi is the mother of UN1701, which has allowed Hezbollah to acquire 50,000 missiles to fire at Israel. If I had such a record, I would live my life in shame.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tzipi Livni is a compelling alternative to Haneen Zoabi. Tzipi is the mother of UN1701, which has allowed Hezbollah to acquire 50,000 missiles to fire at Israel. If I had such a record, I would live my life in shame.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Weixelbaum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Weixelbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 16:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While normally I&#039;d agree with you, he&#039;s negatively impacting Yesh Atid.  I consider myself right-wing, but I believe in a lot of the domestic issues that Yesh Atid is touting, and I think they&#039;d be a crucial component of a coalition run by Bibi with Bennet as well.  I&#039;d love that.  The problem with Livni is everyone hates her: The right think she&#039;s a tool (which she is), the left thinks she&#039;s just there for popularity and diluting them (which she is), and Yesh Atid which is neither here nor there, and is a party that actually wants to accomplish something and is willing to join a Bibi coalition is also suffering.

It&#039;d be one thing if she&#039;s killing everyone because she&#039;s slated to get twenty-something mandates.  But she&#039;s going to be a nothing party!  So what&#039;s she doing?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While normally I&#039;d agree with you, he&#039;s negatively impacting Yesh Atid.  I consider myself right-wing, but I believe in a lot of the domestic issues that Yesh Atid is touting, and I think they&#039;d be a crucial component of a coalition run by Bibi with Bennet as well.  I&#039;d love that.  The problem with Livni is everyone hates her: The right think she&#039;s a tool (which she is), the left thinks she&#039;s just there for popularity and diluting them (which she is), and Yesh Atid which is neither here nor there, and is a party that actually wants to accomplish something and is willing to join a Bibi coalition is also suffering.</p>
<p>It&#039;d be one thing if she&#039;s killing everyone because she&#039;s slated to get twenty-something mandates.  But she&#039;s going to be a nothing party!  So what&#039;s she doing?!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Isser Coopersmith</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/ill-tell-you-who-tzipi-livni-is-a-compelling-alternative-to-bibi-netanyahu/#comment-80784</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Isser Coopersmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 12:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope Livni sticks around.  It will dilute the Left even more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Livni sticks around.  It will dilute the Left even more.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Weixelbaum</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/ill-tell-you-who-tzipi-livni-is-a-compelling-alternative-to-bibi-netanyahu/#comment-80788</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Weixelbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 11:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peace is plain and simple.  No more war.  No more hatred.  No more violence.  Quiet, security, and serenity.
Every PM has worked to achieve this, whether it was Ben-Gurion, Begin, Shamir, Peres, Rabin, or Bibi.  Livni&#039;s old boss (Olmert) tried, with her at his side.  All have failed.  Not because they didn&#039;t care enough or try hard enough but because peace (as opposed to security) is a 2-way street, and while one side was willing to tango, the Palestinians never were.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peace is plain and simple.  No more war.  No more hatred.  No more violence.  Quiet, security, and serenity.<br />
Every PM has worked to achieve this, whether it was Ben-Gurion, Begin, Shamir, Peres, Rabin, or Bibi.  Livni&#039;s old boss (Olmert) tried, with her at his side.  All have failed.  Not because they didn&#039;t care enough or try hard enough but because peace (as opposed to security) is a 2-way street, and while one side was willing to tango, the Palestinians never were.</p>
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		<title>By: Yonit Gefen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yonit Gefen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 10:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep you could be :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep you could be <img src='http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ilan Toren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ilan Toren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 06:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about some info on how Livni compares with Erdan as an Environment minister.  What did she do to advance legislation and enforcement?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about some info on how Livni compares with Erdan as an Environment minister.  What did she do to advance legislation and enforcement?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 21:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Josh, friend, re: &quot;peace&quot;: 

1. I, personally, (and very honestly) DO NOT KNOW--how...SPECIFICALLY...&quot;peace&quot; (which seems to be defined quite differently by the different parties involved) can be achieved.

2. My guess is that there IS NO &quot;painless&quot; (for all parties involved) way of achieving it.

3. ARGUABLY...it is the FEAR (on the part of all parties)...of what their share of the &quot;pain&quot; will involve (and what uncontrollable demons it might unleash in their respective societies)...that has caused ALL parties concerned to:




(a) Pontificate LOUDLY....



(b) While EFFECTIVELY continuing to--KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD...



(c) While (as is human nature)...placing 100% of the blame...on &quot;the other guy.&quot;

(but, I hasten to admit--I could be flat-out WRONG...OK?)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, friend, re: &quot;peace&quot;: </p>
<p>1. I, personally, (and very honestly) DO NOT KNOW&#8211;how&#8230;SPECIFICALLY&#8230;&quot;peace&quot; (which seems to be defined quite differently by the different parties involved) can be achieved.</p>
<p>2. My guess is that there IS NO &quot;painless&quot; (for all parties involved) way of achieving it.</p>
<p>3. ARGUABLY&#8230;it is the FEAR (on the part of all parties)&#8230;of what their share of the &quot;pain&quot; will involve (and what uncontrollable demons it might unleash in their respective societies)&#8230;that has caused ALL parties concerned to:</p>
<p>(a) Pontificate LOUDLY&#8230;.</p>
<p>(b) While EFFECTIVELY continuing to&#8211;KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD&#8230;</p>
<p>(c) While (as is human nature)&#8230;placing 100% of the blame&#8230;on &quot;the other guy.&quot;</p>
<p>(but, I hasten to admit&#8211;I could be flat-out WRONG&#8230;OK?)</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Weixelbaum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Weixelbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 18:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, I got a response!

Regarding peace and security, the author doesn&#039;t answer my main question.  I didn&#039;t ask WHY there needs to be peace.  EVERY leader has worked towards peace.  But there won&#039;t be peace until the Palestinians realize that peace is in their interest.  Yes, I know that Tzippi wants a 2-state &quot;solution&quot; (problem).  I personally disagree with her on that, fundamentally and practically (I think it&#039;s practically impossible to implement and will also not solve anything - it will simply make life worse for the Jews,) but that&#039;s her right.  But she has yet to say how she will achieve that.  Instead of blaming Bibi, tell me what she would do differently.  And don&#039;t say &quot;I would speak to Abbas.&quot;  She spoke to Abbas in 2007, and where&#039;d that get us?  Bibi instituted a Settlement freeze!  Unprecedented in the HISTORY of Israel!  Abbas refused to negotiate.  And continues to refuse to negotiate.  He instead continues to glorify terrorists, signed a reconciliation deal with Hamas, and ignored Oslo completely by going for unilateral recognition at the UN.  So again, Who are you Tzippi?

Regarding the environment, don&#039;t put yourself so high.  She brought in the Green Movement to increase votes.  Plain and simple.  I have never once heard Livni talk so importantly about the environment that she made such a conscientious decision.

Regarding the economy, so she brought in some socialists.  This is a side point, as I&#039;m actually going to argue on the issue itself - socialism doesn&#039;t end poverty; it just makes everyone equally poor.

Regarding the rest, I recognize that she has talked about these issues, but every time I have heard her speak, it has been in the context of &quot;I&#039;m not Bibi or Shelly and this is what I want,&quot; even though they campaign for similar issues.  Truth be told, many of her social values are similar to Lapid.  The big difference: Lapid has clear messages.  No matter where he goes, he says his plans.  He posts his plans on his website, Facebook, etc.  You can disagree with them, but they&#039;re there.  With Livni, they aren&#039;t.  She&#039;s a cut-and-run.  She loses Kadmia primary so she bolts.  She only comes back when she can re-enter the Knesset.  Then, she tries merging with other parties with her at the helm.  Ridiculous!  A party that&#039;s supposed to get a maximum of 11 seats (and that&#039;s being generous) thinks she can lead a merged party with Labor?  That&#039;s plain ego.

Again, Livni has done the go-round a bunch of times, and failed to lead.  She won&#039;t tell us who she is.  Shelly shows why she&#039;ll be a good leader.  Lapid shows why he&#039;s important.  Bibi and Bennet shows why they&#039;re necessary.  All Livni continues to campaign for (at least at the multiple speeches of her&#039;s I went to,) &quot;I&#039;m not Bibi and I&#039;m not Shelly.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I got a response!</p>
<p>Regarding peace and security, the author doesn&#039;t answer my main question.  I didn&#039;t ask WHY there needs to be peace.  EVERY leader has worked towards peace.  But there won&#039;t be peace until the Palestinians realize that peace is in their interest.  Yes, I know that Tzippi wants a 2-state &quot;solution&quot; (problem).  I personally disagree with her on that, fundamentally and practically (I think it&#039;s practically impossible to implement and will also not solve anything &#8211; it will simply make life worse for the Jews,) but that&#039;s her right.  But she has yet to say how she will achieve that.  Instead of blaming Bibi, tell me what she would do differently.  And don&#039;t say &quot;I would speak to Abbas.&quot;  She spoke to Abbas in 2007, and where&#039;d that get us?  Bibi instituted a Settlement freeze!  Unprecedented in the HISTORY of Israel!  Abbas refused to negotiate.  And continues to refuse to negotiate.  He instead continues to glorify terrorists, signed a reconciliation deal with Hamas, and ignored Oslo completely by going for unilateral recognition at the UN.  So again, Who are you Tzippi?</p>
<p>Regarding the environment, don&#039;t put yourself so high.  She brought in the Green Movement to increase votes.  Plain and simple.  I have never once heard Livni talk so importantly about the environment that she made such a conscientious decision.</p>
<p>Regarding the economy, so she brought in some socialists.  This is a side point, as I&#039;m actually going to argue on the issue itself &#8211; socialism doesn&#039;t end poverty; it just makes everyone equally poor.</p>
<p>Regarding the rest, I recognize that she has talked about these issues, but every time I have heard her speak, it has been in the context of &quot;I&#039;m not Bibi or Shelly and this is what I want,&quot; even though they campaign for similar issues.  Truth be told, many of her social values are similar to Lapid.  The big difference: Lapid has clear messages.  No matter where he goes, he says his plans.  He posts his plans on his website, Facebook, etc.  You can disagree with them, but they&#039;re there.  With Livni, they aren&#039;t.  She&#039;s a cut-and-run.  She loses Kadmia primary so she bolts.  She only comes back when she can re-enter the Knesset.  Then, she tries merging with other parties with her at the helm.  Ridiculous!  A party that&#039;s supposed to get a maximum of 11 seats (and that&#039;s being generous) thinks she can lead a merged party with Labor?  That&#039;s plain ego.</p>
<p>Again, Livni has done the go-round a bunch of times, and failed to lead.  She won&#039;t tell us who she is.  Shelly shows why she&#039;ll be a good leader.  Lapid shows why he&#039;s important.  Bibi and Bennet shows why they&#039;re necessary.  All Livni continues to campaign for (at least at the multiple speeches of her&#039;s I went to,) &quot;I&#039;m not Bibi and I&#039;m not Shelly.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Godot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Godot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 11:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alternative yes, compelling you have to be kidding. Take a look at her record in government and her activities since. That should be enough. And there is no - I REPEAT NO! - evidence she has learned from her failures.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alternative yes, compelling you have to be kidding. Take a look at her record in government and her activities since. That should be enough. And there is no &#8211; I REPEAT NO! &#8211; evidence she has learned from her failures.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Godot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Godot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 11:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alternative yes, compelling you have to be kidding. Take a look at her record in government and her activities since. That should be enough. And there is no - I REPEAT NO! - evidence she has learned from her failures.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alternative yes, compelling you have to be kidding. Take a look at her record in government and her activities since. That should be enough. And there is no &#8211; I REPEAT NO! &#8211; evidence she has learned from her failures.</p>
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