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		<title>By: אבי קסנר</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/interests-image-and-the-perpetuators-of-the-pr-problem-myth/#comment-83648</link>
		<dc:creator>אבי קסנר</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 18:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry Zachary, but that isn&#039;t true.  If the world believed that Jews belong in the land of Israel, they would not have a problem with Jews building homes in areas where the Jewish patriaarchs are buried, or where the Maccabees fought against the greeks.  (i.e Judeah and Samaria). They would argue that those Jews can join the Palestinian State if such a state ever includes those borders.

The opinion that Jewish homes are an obstacle to peace is because of a refusal to acknowledge the rights of Jews to the land that their ancestors lived in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Zachary, but that isn&#039;t true.  If the world believed that Jews belong in the land of Israel, they would not have a problem with Jews building homes in areas where the Jewish patriaarchs are buried, or where the Maccabees fought against the greeks.  (i.e Judeah and Samaria). They would argue that those Jews can join the Palestinian State if such a state ever includes those borders.</p>
<p>The opinion that Jewish homes are an obstacle to peace is because of a refusal to acknowledge the rights of Jews to the land that their ancestors lived in.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Taylor</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/interests-image-and-the-perpetuators-of-the-pr-problem-myth/#comment-83524</link>
		<dc:creator>Zachary Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 05:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the contrary, most Western critics of Israeli policy are supporters of Israel&#039;s right to exist and supporters of the two state solution who blame Israel for failing to implement it, and/or for the treatment of Palestinians in the West Bank and during military operations in Gaza. Anti-Semitic nuts calling for the removal of all Jews from the Middle East may be loud, but they&#039;re a minority-- and they won&#039;t be subject to change. Reducing this to an issue of who should live where doesn&#039;t address the concerns of the people who that Hasbara effort needs to reach the most.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the contrary, most Western critics of Israeli policy are supporters of Israel&#039;s right to exist and supporters of the two state solution who blame Israel for failing to implement it, and/or for the treatment of Palestinians in the West Bank and during military operations in Gaza. Anti-Semitic nuts calling for the removal of all Jews from the Middle East may be loud, but they&#039;re a minority&#8211; and they won&#039;t be subject to change. Reducing this to an issue of who should live where doesn&#039;t address the concerns of the people who that Hasbara effort needs to reach the most.</p>
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		<title>By: Herbert Kaine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/interests-image-and-the-perpetuators-of-the-pr-problem-myth/#comment-83522</link>
		<dc:creator>Herbert Kaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 19:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We flowed with history- into the chimneys of Auschwitz, Treblinka, Bergen Belsen, etc. We enjoyed a historically brief post-Holocaust rebound of sympathy. Now we are back to business as usual. The only difference between the situation of Jews in 1813, 1913 and 2013- Jews now have the capability to fight back, which angers many outside of Israel, and even some in Israel]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We flowed with history- into the chimneys of Auschwitz, Treblinka, Bergen Belsen, etc. We enjoyed a historically brief post-Holocaust rebound of sympathy. Now we are back to business as usual. The only difference between the situation of Jews in 1813, 1913 and 2013- Jews now have the capability to fight back, which angers many outside of Israel, and even some in Israel</p>
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		<title>By: Yonit Gefen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/interests-image-and-the-perpetuators-of-the-pr-problem-myth/#comment-83518</link>
		<dc:creator>Yonit Gefen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 19:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The report misses the main issue:  How are we (israel) viewed by outsiders, how do we want to be viewed, and what can we do about it.  The study is a typical beauracratic approach to success:  Are our efforts coordinated? do we have a mission statement (never mind what it is), do we have enough manpower against this effort, do we make use of new technologies, like twitter. Thus is ALL PROCESS AND NO SUBSTANCE.

There is only one measure of success- Are world perceptions benefiting or harming us and there is no question that our image is lousy. We pay for it in blood and most people here don&#039;t get it.  We can through our hands up in the air, say that nobody listens to Jews anyway, that only armies are important, who cares what the world thinks anyway etc, etc. OR we can look at what we are doing wrong and change.

If Islamists have managed to convince the world that we are Colonialists who are victimizing them and &quot;forcing&quot; them to. in desperation. commit acts of terror, that we (Israel) are the only real obstacle to peace,  that terrorists become moderates we can trust and negotiate with in a snap of the fingers and and that our evil soldiers love to kill Arab babies, clearly we can do better. 

Hasbara is not the answer. The word means &quot;explain&quot; which is what we do. We react rather than attack and you never win from behind. Specific steps we need to take is a large topic , but we cannot begin to succeed until we stop being obstinate and defensive &amp; admit we have a problem. Until then, our enemies will continue to define us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The report misses the main issue:  How are we (israel) viewed by outsiders, how do we want to be viewed, and what can we do about it.  The study is a typical beauracratic approach to success:  Are our efforts coordinated? do we have a mission statement (never mind what it is), do we have enough manpower against this effort, do we make use of new technologies, like twitter. Thus is ALL PROCESS AND NO SUBSTANCE.</p>
<p>There is only one measure of success- Are world perceptions benefiting or harming us and there is no question that our image is lousy. We pay for it in blood and most people here don&#039;t get it.  We can through our hands up in the air, say that nobody listens to Jews anyway, that only armies are important, who cares what the world thinks anyway etc, etc. OR we can look at what we are doing wrong and change.</p>
<p>If Islamists have managed to convince the world that we are Colonialists who are victimizing them and &quot;forcing&quot; them to. in desperation. commit acts of terror, that we (Israel) are the only real obstacle to peace,  that terrorists become moderates we can trust and negotiate with in a snap of the fingers and and that our evil soldiers love to kill Arab babies, clearly we can do better. </p>
<p>Hasbara is not the answer. The word means &quot;explain&quot; which is what we do. We react rather than attack and you never win from behind. Specific steps we need to take is a large topic , but we cannot begin to succeed until we stop being obstinate and defensive &amp; admit we have a problem. Until then, our enemies will continue to define us.</p>
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		<title>By: Emanuel Shahaf</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/interests-image-and-the-perpetuators-of-the-pr-problem-myth/#comment-83520</link>
		<dc:creator>Emanuel Shahaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 18:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even a history lesson must be learned and nobody will learn it if Israel doesn&#039;t flow with history - the Jews will only belong to Israel in the eyes of the world if Israel integrates into the neighborhood. For the time being the only integration appears to be that we are starting to act like the Arabs around us...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even a history lesson must be learned and nobody will learn it if Israel doesn&#039;t flow with history &#8211; the Jews will only belong to Israel in the eyes of the world if Israel integrates into the neighborhood. For the time being the only integration appears to be that we are starting to act like the Arabs around us&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: אבי קסנר</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/interests-image-and-the-perpetuators-of-the-pr-problem-myth/#comment-83316</link>
		<dc:creator>אבי קסנר</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 08:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Israel&#039;s PR and Hasbara problem is not about regarding current policy, but rather with the ability to convince the world that the Jewish people belong in Israel.  This is a history lesson, not  a current policy lesson.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel&#039;s PR and Hasbara problem is not about regarding current policy, but rather with the ability to convince the world that the Jewish people belong in Israel.  This is a history lesson, not  a current policy lesson.</p>
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		<title>By: Juda Engelmayer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/interests-image-and-the-perpetuators-of-the-pr-problem-myth/#comment-83152</link>
		<dc:creator>Juda Engelmayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 22:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the logic is flawed to presume that just because one does not live in Israel s/he cannot possibly know what good Israel PR is.  In fact, just the opposite; as someone living outside of Israel, Ronn Torossian, myself or anyone who knows PR and knows how the American public view Israeli policies and actions, are better able to assess just how well the PR approach is doing.

The co-director of Molad is so fixated on living in Israel, presumably to suggest that one who does is better able to weigh in on Israel&#039;s public image, yet Molad is conveniently funded nearly entirely by people and interests that &quot;live&quot; out of Israel.  In fact, the only known major Israeli funder of Molad is the New Israel Fund, often referred to as a leftist extremist group.  Molad is funded by people who, “do not live in Israel.”  Molad receives  funds from Skoll Global Threats Fund (which Molad removed from its website in early July 2012 after inquiries into its funding were made), and according to Israel&#039;s Ha&#039;Aretz, it is funded by &quot;left-liberal foundations and groups from the U.S. associated with the Democratic party.&quot;  ” Molad is also funded by the EU-funded Anna Lindh Foundation.  They will not disclose their other funders. 

The far leftist viewpoints of Molad - that settlements are the problem in the Middle East - have little representation in Israel.  That particular myth was also debunked in the left-leaning Washington Post, which carried a January 1, 2013 editorial stating the real facts of the settlement issue.  (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/israeli-settlement-proposals-prompt-rash-rhetoric/2013/01/01/2d6aea54-504f-11e2-8b49-64675006147f_story.html)

To his point, Torossian&#039;s comments referred to public relations – something he does know about as Founder of a successful American PR firm - 5W Public Relations, where I also work.  On the other hand, Molad does not know public relations, and judging from the research it conducts, it either may not be that adept at it, or it may not be telling you all of the results.   Under the guise of a research document, Molad shows that Israel spends time on PR, which no one disputes.  They make no attempt to show how, or if those very PR efforts are effective. 

What it certainly does not demonstrate is how the settlements are the reason for Israel’s bad media.  If Molad were to be objective, it would tell the public what it is.  Molad: The Center for the Renewal of Democracy is a radical, extremist organization compromised of leaders from organizations such as Breaking the Silence and the Sheikh Jarrah Solidarity Movement (SJSM); leftist extremists. 

The founder of Molad, Avraham Burg was rejected by the Israeli electorate, rejected at home in a democratic process.  So now, with foreign funding, he advances his personal agenda attacking Israeli democracy at every stop. Burg writes of “winds of isolation and narrowness” and “democracy-eliding fear” as he travels the world demonizing Israel in a world that is already inclined to deem Israel the demon without any assistance from Burg.  

Molad continues pretending to be a think-tank, while its flawed research, subjective opinions,  and funding from mysterious foreign sources makes its mission quite clear.  It may know the streets of Israel better than those outside, but it does not know public relations. 

Lenin called those who work against their own people’s best interests in support of their enemies “helpful idiots.”  Molad  can be the very definition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the logic is flawed to presume that just because one does not live in Israel s/he cannot possibly know what good Israel PR is.  In fact, just the opposite; as someone living outside of Israel, Ronn Torossian, myself or anyone who knows PR and knows how the American public view Israeli policies and actions, are better able to assess just how well the PR approach is doing.</p>
<p>The co-director of Molad is so fixated on living in Israel, presumably to suggest that one who does is better able to weigh in on Israel&#039;s public image, yet Molad is conveniently funded nearly entirely by people and interests that &quot;live&quot; out of Israel.  In fact, the only known major Israeli funder of Molad is the New Israel Fund, often referred to as a leftist extremist group.  Molad is funded by people who, “do not live in Israel.”  Molad receives  funds from Skoll Global Threats Fund (which Molad removed from its website in early July 2012 after inquiries into its funding were made), and according to Israel&#039;s Ha&#039;Aretz, it is funded by &quot;left-liberal foundations and groups from the U.S. associated with the Democratic party.&quot;  ” Molad is also funded by the EU-funded Anna Lindh Foundation.  They will not disclose their other funders. </p>
<p>The far leftist viewpoints of Molad &#8211; that settlements are the problem in the Middle East &#8211; have little representation in Israel.  That particular myth was also debunked in the left-leaning Washington Post, which carried a January 1, 2013 editorial stating the real facts of the settlement issue.  (<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/israeli-settlement-proposals-prompt-rash-rhetoric/2013/01/01/2d6aea54-504f-11e2-8b49-64675006147f_story.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/israeli-settlement-proposals-prompt-rash-rhetoric/2013/01/01/2d6aea54-504f-11e2-8b49-64675006147f_story.html</a>)</p>
<p>To his point, Torossian&#039;s comments referred to public relations – something he does know about as Founder of a successful American PR firm &#8211; 5W Public Relations, where I also work.  On the other hand, Molad does not know public relations, and judging from the research it conducts, it either may not be that adept at it, or it may not be telling you all of the results.   Under the guise of a research document, Molad shows that Israel spends time on PR, which no one disputes.  They make no attempt to show how, or if those very PR efforts are effective. </p>
<p>What it certainly does not demonstrate is how the settlements are the reason for Israel’s bad media.  If Molad were to be objective, it would tell the public what it is.  Molad: The Center for the Renewal of Democracy is a radical, extremist organization compromised of leaders from organizations such as Breaking the Silence and the Sheikh Jarrah Solidarity Movement (SJSM); leftist extremists. </p>
<p>The founder of Molad, Avraham Burg was rejected by the Israeli electorate, rejected at home in a democratic process.  So now, with foreign funding, he advances his personal agenda attacking Israeli democracy at every stop. Burg writes of “winds of isolation and narrowness” and “democracy-eliding fear” as he travels the world demonizing Israel in a world that is already inclined to deem Israel the demon without any assistance from Burg.  </p>
<p>Molad continues pretending to be a think-tank, while its flawed research, subjective opinions,  and funding from mysterious foreign sources makes its mission quite clear.  It may know the streets of Israel better than those outside, but it does not know public relations. </p>
<p>Lenin called those who work against their own people’s best interests in support of their enemies “helpful idiots.”  Molad  can be the very definition.</p>
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		<title>By: Shlomo Toren</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/interests-image-and-the-perpetuators-of-the-pr-problem-myth/#comment-82962</link>
		<dc:creator>Shlomo Toren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 15:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let us understand that there is a big difference from running a country and selling soft drinks.  If, despite a saavy media campaign, the public still doesn&#039;t buy the product then for sure, maybe the product just isn&#039;t good. However a government has many other concerns other than image including a minor one called the welfare of her citizens.  I, for one, wouldn&#039;t want a government that put its image before my welfare and most Israelis evidently feel the same way.

Another small point here.  If Molad, despite its claimed professionalism (by itself , of course) is perceived as being a Leftist orientated, Leftist funded hack organization despite all efforts in presenting it otherwise, then there is something wrong with the product and not just the packaging.

In this whole hasbara effectiveness argument is missing the long range influence of the Arab oil wealth on internatiional foreign relations,  including the desires of governments to increase trade with the Arab countries and the massive funding by Arab countries in Middle East departments in universites all over the Western world.  In short, Israel has a huge task in front of her in getting positive market exposure at universites and in the Press partly because the resources to counter Arab messaging are limited.  Throw in (though I&#039;d rather throw out) the Jewish elements in the New Left that inherently dislike the religious and nationalistic aspects of Israel (as the Jewish National homeland) and you have quite a toxic mix.  

 Israel&#039;s &quot;Hasbara&quot; might be quite fine and working well, and Israel may not be as successful in selling herself despite that.  That doesn&#039;t mean the policies are wrong but rather that not all &quot;truths&quot; are an easy sell.  The answer is always just to keep on trying and thriving. As that funny man once said &quot; what is important is not what the goyim say, but rather what the Jews do&quot;.  SInce then we have gotten quite far and it seems a shame to throw out a winning formula in order to get a better image.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us understand that there is a big difference from running a country and selling soft drinks.  If, despite a saavy media campaign, the public still doesn&#039;t buy the product then for sure, maybe the product just isn&#039;t good. However a government has many other concerns other than image including a minor one called the welfare of her citizens.  I, for one, wouldn&#039;t want a government that put its image before my welfare and most Israelis evidently feel the same way.</p>
<p>Another small point here.  If Molad, despite its claimed professionalism (by itself , of course) is perceived as being a Leftist orientated, Leftist funded hack organization despite all efforts in presenting it otherwise, then there is something wrong with the product and not just the packaging.</p>
<p>In this whole hasbara effectiveness argument is missing the long range influence of the Arab oil wealth on internatiional foreign relations,  including the desires of governments to increase trade with the Arab countries and the massive funding by Arab countries in Middle East departments in universites all over the Western world.  In short, Israel has a huge task in front of her in getting positive market exposure at universites and in the Press partly because the resources to counter Arab messaging are limited.  Throw in (though I&#039;d rather throw out) the Jewish elements in the New Left that inherently dislike the religious and nationalistic aspects of Israel (as the Jewish National homeland) and you have quite a toxic mix.  </p>
<p> Israel&#039;s &quot;Hasbara&quot; might be quite fine and working well, and Israel may not be as successful in selling herself despite that.  That doesn&#039;t mean the policies are wrong but rather that not all &quot;truths&quot; are an easy sell.  The answer is always just to keep on trying and thriving. As that funny man once said &quot; what is important is not what the goyim say, but rather what the Jews do&quot;.  SInce then we have gotten quite far and it seems a shame to throw out a winning formula in order to get a better image.</p>
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		<title>By: Shlomo Toren</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/interests-image-and-the-perpetuators-of-the-pr-problem-myth/#comment-82964</link>
		<dc:creator>Shlomo Toren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 15:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let us understand that there is a big difference from running a country and selling soft drinks.  If, despite a saavy media campaign, the public still doesn&#039;t buy the product then for sure, maybe the product just isn&#039;t good. However a government has many other concerns other than image including a minor one called the welfare of her citizens.  I, for one, wouldn&#039;t want a government that put its image before my welfare and most Israelis evidently feel the same way.

Another small point here.  If Molad, despite its claimed professionalism (by itself , of course) is perceived as being a Leftist orientated, Leftist funded hack organization despite all efforts in presenting it otherwise, then there is something wrong with the product and not just the packaging.

In this whole hasbara effectiveness argument is missing the long range influence of the Arab oil wealth on internatiional foreign relations,  including the desires of governments to increase trade with the Arab countries and the massive funding by Arab countries in Middle East departments in universites all over the Western world.  In short, Israel has a huge task in front of her in getting positive market exposure at universites and in the Press partly because the resources to counter Arab messaging are limited.  Throw in (though I&#039;d rather throw out) the Jewish elements in the New Left that inherently dislike the religious and nationalistic aspects of Israel (as the Jewish National homeland) and you have quite a toxic mix.  

 Israel&#039;s &quot;Hasbara&quot; might be quite fine and working well, and Israel may not be as successful in selling herself despite that.  That doesn&#039;t mean the policies are wrong but rather that not all &quot;truths&quot; are an easy sell.  The answer is always just to keep on trying and thriving. As that funny man once said &quot; what is important is not what the goyim say, but rather what the Jews do&quot;.  SInce then we have gotten quite far and it seems a shame to throw out a winning formula in order to get a better image.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us understand that there is a big difference from running a country and selling soft drinks.  If, despite a saavy media campaign, the public still doesn&#039;t buy the product then for sure, maybe the product just isn&#039;t good. However a government has many other concerns other than image including a minor one called the welfare of her citizens.  I, for one, wouldn&#039;t want a government that put its image before my welfare and most Israelis evidently feel the same way.</p>
<p>Another small point here.  If Molad, despite its claimed professionalism (by itself , of course) is perceived as being a Leftist orientated, Leftist funded hack organization despite all efforts in presenting it otherwise, then there is something wrong with the product and not just the packaging.</p>
<p>In this whole hasbara effectiveness argument is missing the long range influence of the Arab oil wealth on internatiional foreign relations,  including the desires of governments to increase trade with the Arab countries and the massive funding by Arab countries in Middle East departments in universites all over the Western world.  In short, Israel has a huge task in front of her in getting positive market exposure at universites and in the Press partly because the resources to counter Arab messaging are limited.  Throw in (though I&#039;d rather throw out) the Jewish elements in the New Left that inherently dislike the religious and nationalistic aspects of Israel (as the Jewish National homeland) and you have quite a toxic mix.  </p>
<p> Israel&#039;s &quot;Hasbara&quot; might be quite fine and working well, and Israel may not be as successful in selling herself despite that.  That doesn&#039;t mean the policies are wrong but rather that not all &quot;truths&quot; are an easy sell.  The answer is always just to keep on trying and thriving. As that funny man once said &quot; what is important is not what the goyim say, but rather what the Jews do&quot;.  SInce then we have gotten quite far and it seems a shame to throw out a winning formula in order to get a better image.</p>
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		<title>By: Maor Shani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maor Shani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 14:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Manekin, there&#039;s a rather absurd application of logic in your institutes&#039; report: If Israel&#039;s public diplomacy apparatus is more &quot;efficient&quot; than the &quot;Anti-Israeli&quot; one, then Israel&#039;s unfavorable image results from its policies and is &quot;its own fault&quot;. First, efficiency is not only the &quot;output&quot; - that organizational success that we have control over, but also and perhaps mostly the &quot;outcome&quot; - the impact we wish to achieve but we don&#039;t have full control over. The report focuses on the output aspect of Israel&#039;s network of PR organizations, but doesn&#039;t examine its effectiveness in terms of outcome (it only makes ungrounded assumptions upon it). Second, there is no &quot;anti-Israeli public diplomacy apparatus&quot;, the thing you chose to compare Israel&#039;s apparatus with. It&#039;s a fictitious entity you invented to make it seems as if the anti-Israeli propaganda campaign is not effective (because it&#039;s less organized, i.e. its output is less successful). Third, you didn&#039;t deal with the messages, although you recognizes them in the report - the anti-Israel campaigns is delegitimizing and demonizing Israel. 
Were these messages of hate and bigotry, that are so widespread in the international media and public life, examined as a possible explanation&#039;s to Israel&#039;s negative image abroad? Were any alternative explanations examined, before the conclusion that Israel&#039;s policies are to be blamed (i.e. blaming the victim of the campaign of hate and bigotry for bringing it on herself!)? The report doesn&#039;t even deal with the policies it claims to be not only faulty, but also responsible for the anti-Israel campaign and attitudes (what exactly is Israel doing that leads to delegitimizing its people and presenting them as the worst demons in history?). 
This is a political paper in the disguise of a research paper. It&#039;s extremely illogical, it derives conclusions from nothing, and I wouldn&#039;t expect such argumentation even from a high school students. This, in fact, puts your institute as a part of your &quot;anti-Israel PR apparatus&quot; - spreading lies against Israel, encouraging hate, and then claiming that Israel brought it on herself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Manekin, there&#039;s a rather absurd application of logic in your institutes&#039; report: If Israel&#039;s public diplomacy apparatus is more &quot;efficient&quot; than the &quot;Anti-Israeli&quot; one, then Israel&#039;s unfavorable image results from its policies and is &quot;its own fault&quot;. First, efficiency is not only the &quot;output&quot; &#8211; that organizational success that we have control over, but also and perhaps mostly the &quot;outcome&quot; &#8211; the impact we wish to achieve but we don&#039;t have full control over. The report focuses on the output aspect of Israel&#039;s network of PR organizations, but doesn&#039;t examine its effectiveness in terms of outcome (it only makes ungrounded assumptions upon it). Second, there is no &quot;anti-Israeli public diplomacy apparatus&quot;, the thing you chose to compare Israel&#039;s apparatus with. It&#039;s a fictitious entity you invented to make it seems as if the anti-Israeli propaganda campaign is not effective (because it&#039;s less organized, i.e. its output is less successful). Third, you didn&#039;t deal with the messages, although you recognizes them in the report &#8211; the anti-Israel campaigns is delegitimizing and demonizing Israel.<br />
Were these messages of hate and bigotry, that are so widespread in the international media and public life, examined as a possible explanation&#039;s to Israel&#039;s negative image abroad? Were any alternative explanations examined, before the conclusion that Israel&#039;s policies are to be blamed (i.e. blaming the victim of the campaign of hate and bigotry for bringing it on herself!)? The report doesn&#039;t even deal with the policies it claims to be not only faulty, but also responsible for the anti-Israel campaign and attitudes (what exactly is Israel doing that leads to delegitimizing its people and presenting them as the worst demons in history?).<br />
This is a political paper in the disguise of a research paper. It&#039;s extremely illogical, it derives conclusions from nothing, and I wouldn&#039;t expect such argumentation even from a high school students. This, in fact, puts your institute as a part of your &quot;anti-Israel PR apparatus&quot; &#8211; spreading lies against Israel, encouraging hate, and then claiming that Israel brought it on herself.</p>
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		<title>By: Maor Shani</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/interests-image-and-the-perpetuators-of-the-pr-problem-myth/#comment-82960</link>
		<dc:creator>Maor Shani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 14:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Manekin, there&#039;s a rather absurd application of logic in your institutes&#039; report: If Israel&#039;s public diplomacy apparatus is more &quot;efficient&quot; than the &quot;Anti-Israeli&quot; one, then Israel&#039;s unfavorable image results from its policies and is &quot;its own fault&quot;. First, efficiency is not only the &quot;output&quot; - that organizational success that we have control over, but also and perhaps mostly the &quot;outcome&quot; - the impact we wish to achieve but we don&#039;t have full control over. The report focuses on the output aspect of Israel&#039;s network of PR organizations, but doesn&#039;t examine its effectiveness in terms of outcome (it only makes ungrounded assumptions upon it). Second, there is no &quot;anti-Israeli public diplomacy apparatus&quot;, the thing you chose to compare Israel&#039;s apparatus with. It&#039;s a fictitious entity you invented to make it seems as if the anti-Israeli propaganda campaign is not effective (because it&#039;s less organized, i.e. its output is less successful). Third, you didn&#039;t deal with the messages, although you recognizes them in the report - the anti-Israel campaigns is delegitimizing and demonizing Israel. 
Were these messages of hate and bigotry, that are so widespread in the international media and public life, examined as a possible explanation&#039;s to Israel&#039;s negative image abroad? Were any alternative explanations examined, before the conclusion that Israel&#039;s policies are to be blamed (i.e. blaming the victim of the campaign of hate and bigotry for bringing it on herself!)? The report doesn&#039;t even deal with the policies it claims to be not only faulty, but also responsible for the anti-Israel campaign and attitudes (what exactly is Israel doing that leads to delegitimizing its people and presenting them as the worst demons in history?). 
This is a political paper in the disguise of a research paper. It&#039;s extremely illogical, it derives conclusions from nothing, and I wouldn&#039;t expect such argumentation even from a high school students. This, in fact, puts your institute as a part of your &quot;anti-Israel PR apparatus&quot; - spreading lies against Israel, encouraging hate, and then claiming that Israel brought it on herself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Manekin, there&#039;s a rather absurd application of logic in your institutes&#039; report: If Israel&#039;s public diplomacy apparatus is more &quot;efficient&quot; than the &quot;Anti-Israeli&quot; one, then Israel&#039;s unfavorable image results from its policies and is &quot;its own fault&quot;. First, efficiency is not only the &quot;output&quot; &#8211; that organizational success that we have control over, but also and perhaps mostly the &quot;outcome&quot; &#8211; the impact we wish to achieve but we don&#039;t have full control over. The report focuses on the output aspect of Israel&#039;s network of PR organizations, but doesn&#039;t examine its effectiveness in terms of outcome (it only makes ungrounded assumptions upon it). Second, there is no &quot;anti-Israeli public diplomacy apparatus&quot;, the thing you chose to compare Israel&#039;s apparatus with. It&#039;s a fictitious entity you invented to make it seems as if the anti-Israeli propaganda campaign is not effective (because it&#039;s less organized, i.e. its output is less successful). Third, you didn&#039;t deal with the messages, although you recognizes them in the report &#8211; the anti-Israel campaigns is delegitimizing and demonizing Israel.<br />
Were these messages of hate and bigotry, that are so widespread in the international media and public life, examined as a possible explanation&#039;s to Israel&#039;s negative image abroad? Were any alternative explanations examined, before the conclusion that Israel&#039;s policies are to be blamed (i.e. blaming the victim of the campaign of hate and bigotry for bringing it on herself!)? The report doesn&#039;t even deal with the policies it claims to be not only faulty, but also responsible for the anti-Israel campaign and attitudes (what exactly is Israel doing that leads to delegitimizing its people and presenting them as the worst demons in history?).<br />
This is a political paper in the disguise of a research paper. It&#039;s extremely illogical, it derives conclusions from nothing, and I wouldn&#039;t expect such argumentation even from a high school students. This, in fact, puts your institute as a part of your &quot;anti-Israel PR apparatus&quot; &#8211; spreading lies against Israel, encouraging hate, and then claiming that Israel brought it on herself.</p>
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		<title>By: Ilan Toren</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/interests-image-and-the-perpetuators-of-the-pr-problem-myth/#comment-82884</link>
		<dc:creator>Ilan Toren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 12:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After reading Molad&#039;s report I fail to see how the author claims &quot;we should focus on long-term beneficial policies&quot;.  Is the suggestion that the government can&#039;t decide policy according to it&#039;s preference because since those policies are not applauded by the UN Human Rights Committee they must be wrong?   I think that the aspect that there is vocal criticism of the current Likud government&#039;s policies is being deliberately discounted.  While the government has convinced the public that its policies serve the majority within Israel the internal criticism is given more weight abroad  (probably because it confirms preexisting prejudices and sentiments).  The definition of a good policy is an internal one.  If tomorrow Israel decided to extend Israeli law on all of Judea and Samaria that policy would be terribly unpopular internationally even if practically not one Palestinian would be affected.  By the rules of the game today, if Israelis living in Yesha are helped (by given the same legal standing as within the &#039;49 armistice lines) then it is a bod thing.  Not because the world loves Palestinians or wants to further peace, but because they don&#039;t want to accept any claim of legitimacy by Jews to the land of Israel.  I would agree that Hasbara isn&#039;t going to change that at present, but that has no relation to whether the policy decision is right or wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading Molad&#039;s report I fail to see how the author claims &quot;we should focus on long-term beneficial policies&quot;.  Is the suggestion that the government can&#039;t decide policy according to it&#039;s preference because since those policies are not applauded by the UN Human Rights Committee they must be wrong?   I think that the aspect that there is vocal criticism of the current Likud government&#039;s policies is being deliberately discounted.  While the government has convinced the public that its policies serve the majority within Israel the internal criticism is given more weight abroad  (probably because it confirms preexisting prejudices and sentiments).  The definition of a good policy is an internal one.  If tomorrow Israel decided to extend Israeli law on all of Judea and Samaria that policy would be terribly unpopular internationally even if practically not one Palestinian would be affected.  By the rules of the game today, if Israelis living in Yesha are helped (by given the same legal standing as within the &#039;49 armistice lines) then it is a bod thing.  Not because the world loves Palestinians or wants to further peace, but because they don&#039;t want to accept any claim of legitimacy by Jews to the land of Israel.  I would agree that Hasbara isn&#039;t going to change that at present, but that has no relation to whether the policy decision is right or wrong.</p>
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