Comments on: Israeli Judaism – Under Arrest

By: Greg Smith

Greg Smith — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 20:12:11 +0000

Someone else already wrote a blog post on the hypocrisy, but forgot to include Bonna in the group with them. Just because everyone else gets away with violating the law, what's righteous about complaining that you don't?

By: Michael Lipkin

Michael Lipkin — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 09:35:59 +0000

that should be "terroristic" behavior.

By: Michael Lipkin

Michael Lipkin — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 09:35:02 +0000

Excellent article. Keep up the good work. Unlike some of the bizarrely obnoxious commenters here, you show great sensitivity, e.g. by choosing, for the moment, not to wear your tefillin at the Kotel. It is beyond perverse that anyone could somehow find a woman wrapped in a prayer shawl while praying to be offensive. And frankly any "man" who notices is certainly not all that "frum" in the first place.

This stupid law is one of many examples of how the Israel legal system has chosen to mollify a very small group of fanatics within certain communities rather than apply normative law to them for fear of their terrorism behavior.

By: Edward Bael

Edward Bael — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 08:09:23 +0000

just as I meant to say Hannah, not Naomi, Glenn meant to say the orthodox community , not the jewish people. The kotel is a public place, it is not the private property of the orthodox community. the rabbis say they are the descendants of the judges, deborah was a judge, and like joan of arc, she even led men into battle.

this whole thing is a political battle, it has nothing to do with whether bonna is a sincere jew or not. the rabbis excommunicated spinoza, now they are having this woman arrested. the point is, you believe that homosexuality is forbidden, yet any homosexual can walk into the kotel and pray, so why can't this woman walk into the kotel and pray? even christians and buddhists walk in an pray, so why not her?

By: Greg Smith

Greg Smith — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 00:59:14 +0000

Ed… nor I you for Dror (though I'm guessing the account is just a straw man for Dror to promote himself without appearing to promote himself).

Actually, the way I understand it, Martin Luther wasn't Jewish or feigning to honor the covenant at Sinai all the while breaking it as Bonna is… so, no… I wouldn't compare him with Korah.

By: Rebecca Johnstone

Rebecca Johnstone — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 23:32:45 +0000

Rabbi's are NOT marrying homosexuals at the Kotel, or anywhere in Israel.

By: Edward Bael

Edward Bael — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 22:41:59 +0000

didn't realize you were the spokesman for the jewish people….do you speak for all the reform,conservative and orthodox jews ? by you logic martin luther and the pilgrims should also be compared to korach. where is it written that it is forbidden for women to pray at the western wall ? rabbis are marrying homosexuals and you are upset that this woman wants to pray in a public place?this is a crime?

By: Greg Smith

Greg Smith — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 21:22:26 +0000

I have to agree with Glenn, her actions are more in keeping with Korah and not Samuel's mother… who's words were not heard. Did she take the robes of Eli, pray as he prayed, sacrifice as he did?

Bonna forces pluralism, forces her democratic rights as opposed to those things granted by God. And that definitely is more like Korah than the mother of Samuel.

Concerning the last point… comparing your timeline to Dror ben Ami's, I think most people would see you as the straw man…

By: Glenn Perlman

Glenn Perlman — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 18:18:46 +0000

She is trying to impose her 1960's groovy Boona-sim on the Jewish people and we're not interested. Please don't compare her to Naomi or anyone else Jewish accept Korach and his community to whom she fits in well.

By: Edward Bael

Edward Bael — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 11:04:58 +0000

Bonna is an Israeli citizen standing up for her rights…Was Naomi , the mother of Samuel, arrested for praying outside the shrine at Shilo???

We all know who Bonna is, who are you ? Just a fake name, a fake picture and a fake facebook page….

By: Zelda Harris

Zelda Harris — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:41:20 +0000

This article should be distributed all over.
We should have every respect for these outstanding women who by their presence despite constant harrassment are doing what we should all be doing as traditional jewish women. We in Israel are no better than those around us whose abuse, control and deligitimisation of their women, we detest. No representation in religious political parties is the tip pf the iceberg Heres to new beginnings.
Zelda Harris

By: Stan Brin

Stan Brin — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 14:31:36 +0000

Equality in not merely the adoption of traditionally male rituals, but is also the choice to affirmatively abandon female privilege — most feminists I know do nothing but insult and reject men, all of whom they regard as unworthy of them. And of course, it's the fault of men that they're still single. I might have more sympathy for feminists in religion if I felt that they rejected this hypocrisy.

By: Stan Brin

Stan Brin — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 14:23:00 +0000

"Jews for Jesus" is a nasty Christian cult. It has nothing to do with Reform or Conservative Judaism, which reject Christianity entirely.

By: Glenn Perlman

Glenn Perlman — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:10:26 +0000

There is nothing more spiritual in Judaism than bringing a new Jewish spirt (having babies) into this world. That's the difference between Judaism and Bonna-ism, Rachel-ism and all the other 1960's groovey ideas.

By: Edward Bael

Edward Bael — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:20:11 +0000

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