Comments on: Israelis Voted for Change and a Normal Life http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/israelis-voted-for-change-and-a-normal-life/ The Marketplace of Ideas Sat, 25 May 2013 00:56:45 +0300 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Shlomo Toren http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/israelis-voted-for-change-and-a-normal-life/#comment-90330 Shlomo Toren Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:10:05 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=98238#comment-90330 The real elephant in the room is Mahmoud Abbass's statement that Israeli governments can change but the PA's positions will stay the same. Lapid had to sell the line about renewing the negotiations; perhaps he even believes that nothing has pprogressed because of Netanyahu. Either way it shows something particularly skewed with Lapid and his crowd if they think that negotiations can be renewed at the press of a button, as if the PA is some passive participant.

Considering that Lapid didn't emphasize the issue of the negotiations until the day after the elections says everything about it. Yesh Atid can claim the mantle of the "darlings " of the Left and the International community and it is a great strategy if their intention is to marginalize the "Jewish Home" party. In the end they will give it lip service and then drop it when they see they no longer get traction for it. Perhaps they will save the issue in order the intialize new elections once they feel they have some record to stand on. A bit hypocritical, but nothing out of the ordinary for Israeli politics.

]]> By: Shlomo Toren http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/israelis-voted-for-change-and-a-normal-life/#comment-90332 Shlomo Toren Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:10:05 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=98238#comment-90332 The real elephant in the room is Mahmoud Abbass's statement that Israeli governments can change but the PA's positions will stay the same. Lapid had to sell the line about renewing the negotiations; perhaps he even believes that nothing has pprogressed because of Netanyahu. Either way it shows something particularly skewed with Lapid and his crowd if they think that negotiations can be renewed at the press of a button, as if the PA is some passive participant.

Considering that Lapid didn't emphasize the issue of the negotiations until the day after the elections says everything about it. Yesh Atid can claim the mantle of the "darlings " of the Left and the International community and it is a great strategy if their intention is to marginalize the "Jewish Home" party. In the end they will give it lip service and then drop it when they see they no longer get traction for it. Perhaps they will save the issue in order the intialize new elections once they feel they have some record to stand on. A bit hypocritical, but nothing out of the ordinary for Israeli politics.

]]> By: Ilan Toren http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/israelis-voted-for-change-and-a-normal-life/#comment-90216 Ilan Toren Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:28:06 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=98238#comment-90216 That voting patterns differed in this election compared to the previous one is undeniable. Trying to extrapolate what it means though is like reading tea leaves. Yesh Atid deemphasized almost every issue relative to its central platform of drafting chareidim and the need for change. No one including Lapid knows for sure what his mandate really is for.

]]> By: Ilan Toren http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/israelis-voted-for-change-and-a-normal-life/#comment-90218 Ilan Toren Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:28:06 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=98238#comment-90218 That voting patterns differed in this election compared to the previous one is undeniable. Trying to extrapolate what it means though is like reading tea leaves. Yesh Atid deemphasized almost every issue relative to its central platform of drafting chareidim and the need for change. No one including Lapid knows for sure what his mandate really is for.

]]> By: Alex Spinrad http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/israelis-voted-for-change-and-a-normal-life/#comment-90078 Alex Spinrad Sun, 27 Jan 2013 02:12:06 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=98238#comment-90078 Sorry, if not clear, my remark was directed to Alan, not to Hillel, with whom I totally agree!

]]> By: Alex Spinrad http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/israelis-voted-for-change-and-a-normal-life/#comment-90046 Alex Spinrad Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:29:27 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=98238#comment-90046 Why your obsessive insistence on the faux anti Israel narrative that Israel "lurches to the right" in the face of simple facts, like the actual list of Yesh Atid.
This kind of reality-denial cognitive dissonance is unfortunately typical of many on the left who actually don't care about actual Israelis or Palestinians… But desperately cling to their comic book black-and-white story lines. It isn't anti semitism, but unwillingness to deal with complex reality. Welcome to the Middle East

]]> By: Alan McIntyre http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/israelis-voted-for-change-and-a-normal-life/#comment-90042 Alan McIntyre Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:05:52 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=98238#comment-90042 If the writer of this 'article' believes Yapid to be more centre than Likud he is delusional. Ok so the left cant take a beating and the media lies about Likud having their worst ever results are fiction as they have more ground between them and the next largest party than ever before. So what will the left do? Start even more fantastic fabrications regarding Bibi? One thing for sure is Yapid shares his resentment of PA arabs openly and defiantly. Is this left wing, Shenker, my self hating fool?

]]> By: Alan McIntyre http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/israelis-voted-for-change-and-a-normal-life/#comment-90044 Alan McIntyre Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:05:52 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=98238#comment-90044 If the writer of this 'article' believes Yapid to be more centre than Likud he is delusional. Ok so the left cant take a beating and the media lies about Likud having their worst ever results are fiction as they have more ground between them and the next largest party than ever before. So what will the left do? Start even more fantastic fabrications regarding Bibi? One thing for sure is Yapid shares his resentment of PA arabs openly and defiantly. Is this left wing, Shenker, my self hating fool?

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