Comments on: Naftali Bennett Was Right http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/naftali-bennett-was-right/ The Marketplace of Ideas Wed, 22 May 2013 01:10:35 +0300 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Jim Bley http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/naftali-bennett-was-right/#comment-90994 Jim Bley Mon, 21 Jan 2013 04:35:54 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=91404#comment-90994 I'm still wondering why the overwhelming majority of Germans in 1939 didn't remind Hitler that the Germans just tried taking over the world 20 years ago and look what happened…… Maybe this was what today we call "feeling entitled"…????

]]> By: Jim Bley http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/naftali-bennett-was-right/#comment-90996 Jim Bley Mon, 21 Jan 2013 04:35:54 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=91404#comment-90996 I'm still wondering why the overwhelming majority of Germans in 1939 didn't remind Hitler that the Germans just tried taking over the world 20 years ago and look what happened…… Maybe this was what today we call "feeling entitled"…????

]]> By: Debbie Israel http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/naftali-bennett-was-right/#comment-88370 Debbie Israel Mon, 21 Jan 2013 01:20:40 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=91404#comment-88370 If you look at this from the perspective of "What if Nazi soldiers/officers had refused to follow immoral orders?" (something quite brave, IMHO) you might be able to see it from a different point of view.

]]> By: Debbie Israel http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/naftali-bennett-was-right/#comment-88372 Debbie Israel Mon, 21 Jan 2013 01:20:40 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=91404#comment-88372 If you look at this from the perspective of "What if Nazi soldiers/officers had refused to follow immoral orders?" (something quite brave, IMHO) you might be able to see it from a different point of view.

]]> By: Debbie Israel http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/naftali-bennett-was-right/#comment-88374 Debbie Israel Mon, 21 Jan 2013 01:20:40 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=91404#comment-88374 If you look at this from the perspective of "What if Nazi soldiers/officers had refused to follow immoral orders?" (something quite brave, IMHO) you might be able to see it from a different point of view.

]]> By: Robin Lefkovic Epstein http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/naftali-bennett-was-right/#comment-83856 Robin Lefkovic Epstein Sun, 06 Jan 2013 11:32:02 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=91404#comment-83856 It is never right to take Jews out of their homes in the Jewish homeland of Eretz Yisroel!

]]> By: Francoise Coriat http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/naftali-bennett-was-right/#comment-83854 Francoise Coriat Thu, 03 Jan 2013 23:53:37 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=91404#comment-83854 The excuse advocated by all the nazi officers was that they followed orders. One has to follow "the unwritten laws of the gods" (Antigoni) in other words our conscience, preferably to all the political laws of the state.

]]> By: Gary Cohen http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/naftali-bennett-was-right/#comment-82980 Gary Cohen Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:38:05 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=91404#comment-82980 This is just one more article looking to cloud the issue. The real question which needs to be asked and answered is quite simple…Is there room for politics in the IDF? and the answer is clearly, NO! If right and left alike choose at will which orders they are prepared to carry out based upon their political beliefs and ideology, then there is no end to the chaos which ultimatley threatens the security of the nation as a whole. The refusal to remove an illegal settlement by right wing soldiers is no more legitmate than the refusal to serve in Lebanon or on the West bank by soldiers on the left of the political spectrum. The attempt to mkae this a moral issue is bogus. it is political. The IDF's job is to carry out the policies of the democratically elected government. If you object to those policies, then change them via the ballot box.
There are clear guidliens as to what constitutes an illegal order, which can and should be refused. So stop the rot and remove politics form the IDF before it is too late.

]]> By: Mark Rebacz http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/naftali-bennett-was-right/#comment-82944 Mark Rebacz Thu, 03 Jan 2013 14:57:45 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=91404#comment-82944 Nice point. Too bad the media has no time for essential, deep debates on topics such as these, and instead looks for the brief sound bite.

]]> By: Mark Rebacz http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/naftali-bennett-was-right/#comment-82946 Mark Rebacz Thu, 03 Jan 2013 14:57:45 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=91404#comment-82946 Nice point. Too bad the media has no time for essential, deep debates on topics such as these, and instead looks for the brief sound bite.

]]> By: Ilan Toren http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/naftali-bennett-was-right/#comment-82904 Ilan Toren Thu, 03 Jan 2013 12:51:33 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=91404#comment-82904 eh " command may legal even if the Supreme court says it is" . Meaning was flipped.

]]> By: Ilan Toren http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/naftali-bennett-was-right/#comment-82906 Ilan Toren Thu, 03 Jan 2013 12:51:33 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=91404#comment-82906 eh " command may legal even if the Supreme court says it is" . Meaning was flipped.

]]> By: Ilan Toren http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/naftali-bennett-was-right/#comment-82888 Ilan Toren Thu, 03 Jan 2013 12:49:44 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=91404#comment-82888 The ethos of within our army is very different from that of our society. Dissent is part of democracy. There are those who disagree with policies and will break the law to thwart them. Just this week Anat Kamm's sentence was reduced on the basis that her actions were motivated by her conscience. Certainly refusing an order to use force on an Arab child would get more understanding from the media than using force to remove a family from their home (which of course require using force on adults and children alike). The conflict isn't that our standards forbids refusing an order that is deemed illegal or unethical by the one meant to carry it out. Rather it is that there are soldiers who aren't satisfied that a command may be illegal even if the Supreme court says it is. How dare they be more sensitive to what is right and wrong than our courts. Or that is the sentiment.

People need to follow their consciences. Sometimes there are harsh penalties for doing so, but there is no other alternative.

]]> By: Ilan Toren http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/naftali-bennett-was-right/#comment-82890 Ilan Toren Thu, 03 Jan 2013 12:49:44 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=91404#comment-82890 The ethos of within our army is very different from that of our society. Dissent is part of democracy. There are those who disagree with policies and will break the law to thwart them. Just this week Anat Kamm's sentence was reduced on the basis that her actions were motivated by her conscience. Certainly refusing an order to use force on an Arab child would get more understanding from the media than using force to remove a family from their home (which of course require using force on adults and children alike). The conflict isn't that our standards forbids refusing an order that is deemed illegal or unethical by the one meant to carry it out. Rather it is that there are soldiers who aren't satisfied that a command may be illegal even if the Supreme court says it is. How dare they be more sensitive to what is right and wrong than our courts. Or that is the sentiment.

People need to follow their consciences. Sometimes there are harsh penalties for doing so, but there is no other alternative.

]]> By: Ilan Toren http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/naftali-bennett-was-right/#comment-82892 Ilan Toren Thu, 03 Jan 2013 12:49:44 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=91404#comment-82892 The ethos of within our army is very different from that of our society. Dissent is part of democracy. There are those who disagree with policies and will break the law to thwart them. Just this week Anat Kamm's sentence was reduced on the basis that her actions were motivated by her conscience. Certainly refusing an order to use force on an Arab child would get more understanding from the media than using force to remove a family from their home (which of course require using force on adults and children alike). The conflict isn't that our standards forbids refusing an order that is deemed illegal or unethical by the one meant to carry it out. Rather it is that there are soldiers who aren't satisfied that a command may be illegal even if the Supreme court says it is. How dare they be more sensitive to what is right and wrong than our courts. Or that is the sentiment.

People need to follow their consciences. Sometimes there are harsh penalties for doing so, but there is no other alternative.

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