http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/swinging-both-ways-at-the-polling-place/ The Marketplace of Ideas Wed, 19 Jun 2013 06:42:45 +0300 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/swinging-both-ways-at-the-polling-place/#comment-90956 Michael Chester Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:51:09 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=96958#comment-90956 When confronted with the obvious contradictions of your article your response is to resort to irrelevance and and incoherent bluster. Your tears for the suffering of Palestinians notwithstanding, I am amazed at how quickly the mawkish and sanctimonious air of your original piece is replaced by the angry and combative tone of your reply. Nevertheless, at the risk of indulging you in your extraneous rant I am prepared to tangle with you on one or two points:
You should read a little more widely on these issues than the columns of you own paper, the biased and tendentious Times of Israel. But even reading from the report you quote what is clear is that Mahmoud Abbas did not refuse to accept Palestinian refugees from Syria. Indeed it was he that requested, via the United Nations, their admittance to the West Bank. What Abbas refused to accept was the cynical and coercive condition of the Israeli authorities that the refugees each sign a document giving up their universally recognized legal right to return to what is now Israel. It is interesting to note that no Israeli government spokesperson has come forward to defend that indefensible ruse.
Your dismissive phrase, 'the so-called "Right of Return"' does not alter in the slightest the rights, enshrined in international law, of the Palestinian refugees driven from their homes in Israel's violent military campaigns of ethnic cleansing. Indeed, the only "so-called Right of Return" is the self- referential right claimed by Zionist Jews, which claims to derive from Biblical and obscurantist notions that have no place in public discourse.
The argument that a just settlement of the claims of Palestinian refugees will destroy Israel from within (to use your tired and emotive phrase) is to use pretty much the same argument as the white defenders of apartheid South Africa and you must know is anti-democratic and unworthy. But if you wish to avoid that fate you and people like you living in what the entire planet regards as occupied Palestinian territory will have to withdraw behind 1967 lines and permit the establishment of a Palestinian state where the only people voting in Jerusalem will be citizens of Palestine.

]]> http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/swinging-both-ways-at-the-polling-place/#comment-90954 Michael Chester Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:50:08 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=96958#comment-90954 Matthew Bird

]]> http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/swinging-both-ways-at-the-polling-place/#comment-90952 Michael Chester Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:47:28 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=96958#comment-90952 When confronted with the obvious contradictions of your article your response is to resort to irrelevance and and incoherent bluster. Your tears for the suffering of Palestinians notwithstanding, I am amazed at how quickly the mawkish and sanctimonious air of your original piece is replaced by the angry and combative tone of your reply. Nevertheless, at the risk of indulging you in your extraneous rant I am prepared to tangle with you on one or two points:
You should read a little more widely on these issues than the columns of you own paper, the biased and tendentious Times of Israel. But even reading from the report you quote what is clear is that Mahmoud Abbas did not refuse to accept Palestinian refugees from Syria. Indeed it was he that requested, via the United Nations, their admittance to the West Bank. What Abbas refused to accept was the cynical and coercive condition of the Israeli authorities that the refugees each sign a document giving up their universally recognized legal right to return to what is now Israel. It is interesting to note that no Israeli government spokesperson has come forward to defend that indefensible ruse.
Your dismissive phrase, 'the so-called "Right of Return"' does not alter in the slightest the rights, enshrined in international law, of the Palestinian refugees driven from their homes in Israel's violent military campaigns of ethnic cleansing. Indeed, the only "so-called Right of Return" is the self- referential right claimed by Zionist Jews, which claims to derive from Biblical and obscurantist notions that have no place in public discourse.
The argument that a just settlement of the claims of Palestinian refugees will destroy Israel from within (to use your tired and emotive phrase) is to use pretty much the same argument as the white defenders of apartheid South Africa and you must know is anti-democratic and unworthy. But if you wish to avoid that fate you and people like you living in what the entire planet regards as occupied Palestinian territory will have to withdraw behind 1967 lines and permit the establishment of a Palestinian state where the only people voting in Jerusalem will be citizens of Palestine.

]]> http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/swinging-both-ways-at-the-polling-place/#comment-89918 Michael Chester Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:01:46 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=96958#comment-89918 When confronted with the obvious contradictions of your article your response is to resort to irrelevance and and incoherent bluster. Your tears for the suffering of Palestinians notwithstanding, I am amazed at how quickly the mawkish and sanctimonious air of your original piece is replaced by the angry and combative tone of your reply. Nevertheless, at the risk of indulging you in your extraneous rant I am prepared to tangle with you on one or two points:
You should read a little more widely on these issues than the columns of you own paper, the biased and tendentious Times of Israel. But even reading from the report you quote what is clear is that Mahmoud Abbas did not refuse to accept Palestinian refugees from Syria. Indeed it was he that requested, via the United Nations, their admittance to the West Bank. What Abbas refused to accept was the cynical and coercive condition of the Israeli authorities that the refugees each sign a document giving up their universally recognized legal right to return to what is now Israel. It is interesting to note that no Israeli government spokesperson has come forward to defend that indefensible ruse.
Your dismissive phrase, 'the so-called "Right of Return"' does not alter in the slightest the rights, enshrined in international law, of the Palestinian refugees driven from their homes in Israel's violent military campaigns of ethnic cleansing. Indeed, the only "so-called Right of Return" is the self- referential right claimed by Zionist Jews, which claims to derive from Biblical and obscurantist notions that have no place in public discourse.
The argument that a just settlement of the claims of Palestinian refugees will destroy Israel from within (to use your tired and emotive phrase) is to use pretty much the same argument as the white defenders of apartheid South Africa and you must know is anti-democratic and unworthy. But if you wish to avoid that fate you and people like you living in what the entire planet regards as occupied Palestinian territory will have to withdraw behind 1967 lines and permit the establishment of a Palestinian state where the only people voting in Jerusalem will be citizens of Palestine.

]]> http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/swinging-both-ways-at-the-polling-place/#comment-89806 Michael Chester Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:22:22 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=96958#comment-89806 When confronted with the obvious contradictions of your article your response is to resort to irrelevance and and incoherent bluster. Your tears for the suffering of Palestinians notwithstanding, I am amazed at how quickly the mawkish and sanctimonious air of your original piece is replaced by the angry and combative tone of your reply. Nevertheless, at the risk of indulging you in your extraneous rant I am prepared to tangle with you on one or two points:
You should read a little more widely on these issues than the columns of you own paper, the biased and tendentious Times of Israel. But even reading from the report you quote what is clear is that Mahmoud Abbas did not refuse to accept Palestinian refugees from Syria. Indeed it was he that requested, via the United Nations, their admittance to the West Bank. What Abbas refused to accept was the cynical and coercive condition of the Israeli authorities that the refugees each sign a document giving up their universally recognized legal right to return to what is now Israel. It is interesting to note that no Israeli government spokesperson has come forward to defend that indefensible ruse.
Your dismissive phrase, 'the so-called "Right of Return"' does not alter in the slightest the rights, enshrined in international law, of the Palestinian refugees driven from their homes in Israel's violent military campaigns of ethnic cleansing. Indeed, the only "so-called Right of Return" is the self- referential right claimed by Zionist Jews, which claims to derive from Biblical and obscurantist notions that have no place in public discourse.
The argument that a just settlement of the claims of Palestinian refugees will destroy Israel from within (to use your tired and emotive phrase) is to use pretty much the same argument as the white defenders of apartheid South Africa and you must know is anti-democratic and unworthy. But if you wish to avoid that fate you and people like you living in what the entire planet regards as occupied Palestinian territory will have to withdraw behind 1967 lines and permit the establishment of a Palestinian state where the only people voting in Jerusalem will be citizens of Palestine.

]]> http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/swinging-both-ways-at-the-polling-place/#comment-89804 Michael Chester Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:36:47 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=96958#comment-89804 Heddy Abramowitz
When confronted with the obvious contradictions of your article your response is to resort to irrelevance and and incoherent bluster. Your tears for the suffering of Palestinians notwithstanding, I am amazed at how quickly the mawkish and sanctimonious air of your original piece is replaced by the angry and combative tone of your reply. Nevertheless, at the risk of indulging you in your extraneous rant I am prepared to tangle with you on one or two points:
You should read a little more widely on these issues than the columns of you own paper, the biased and tendentious Times of Israel. But even reading from the report you quote what is clear is that Mahmoud Abbas did not refuse to accept Palestinian refugees from Syria. Indeed it was he that requested, via the United Nations, their admittance to the West Bank. What Abbas refused to accept was the cynical and coercive condition of the Israeli authorities that the refugees each sign a document giving up their universally recognized legal right to return to what is now Israel. It is interesting to note that no Israeli government spokesperson has come forward to defend that indefensible ruse.
Your dismissive phrase, 'the so-called "Right of Return"' does not alter in the slightest the rights, enshrined in international law, of the Palestinian refugees driven from their homes in Israel's violent military campaigns of ethnic cleansing. Indeed, the only "so-called Right of Return" is the self- referential right claimed by Zionist Jews, which claims to derive from Biblical and obscurantist notions that have no place in public discourse.
The argument that a just settlement of the claims of Palestinian refugees will destroy Israel from within (to use your tired and emotive phrase) is to use pretty much the same argument as the white defenders of apartheid South Africa and you must know is anti-democratic and unworthy. But if you wish to avoid that fate you and people like you living in what the entire planet regards as occupied Palestinian territory will have to withdraw behind 1967 lines and permit the establishment of a Palestinian state where the only people voting in Jerusalem will be citizens of Palestine.

]]> http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/swinging-both-ways-at-the-polling-place/#comment-89802 Michael Chester Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:22:17 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=96958#comment-89802 When confronted with the obvious contradictions of your article your response is to resort to irrelevance and and incoherent bluster. Your tears for the suffering of Palestinians notwithstanding, I am amazed at how quickly the mawkish and sanctimonious air of your original piece is replaced by the angry and combative tone of your reply. Nevertheless, at the risk of indulging you in your extraneous rant I am prepared to tangle with you on one or two points:
You should read a little more widely on these issues than the columns of you own paper, the biased and tendentious Times of Israel. But even reading from the report you quote what is clear is that Mahmoud Abbas did not refuse to accept Palestinian refugees from Syria. Indeed it was he that requested, via the United Nations, their admittance to the West Bank. What Abbas refused to accept was the cynical and coercive condition of the Israeli authorities that the refugees each sign a document giving up their universally recognized legal right to return to what is now Israel. It is interesting to note that no Israeli government spokesperson has come forward to defend that indefensible ruse.
Your dismissive phrase, 'the so-called "Right of Return"' does not alter in the slightest the rights, enshrined in international law, of the Palestinian refugees driven from their homes in Israel's violent military campaigns of ethnic cleansing. Indeed, the only "so-called Right of Return" is the self- referential right claimed by Zionist Jews, which claims to derive from Biblical and obscurantist notions that have no place in public discourse.
The argument that a just settlement of the claims of Palestinian refugees will destroy Israel from within (to use your tired and emotive phrase) is to use pretty much the same argument as the white defenders of apartheid South Africa and you must know is anti-democratic and unworthy. But if you wish to avoid that fate you and people like you living in what the entire planet regards as occupied Palestinian territory will have to withdraw behind 1967 lines and permit the establishment of a Palestinian state where the only people voting in Jerusalem will be citizens of Palestine.

]]> http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/swinging-both-ways-at-the-polling-place/#comment-89800 Michael Chester Thu, 24 Jan 2013 18:04:51 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=96958#comment-89800 When confronted with the obvious contradictions of your article your response is to resort to irrelevance and and incoherent bluster. Your tears for the suffering of Palestinians notwithstanding, I am amazed at how quickly the mawkish and sanctimonious air of your original piece is replaced by the angry and combative tone of your reply. Nevertheless, at the risk of indulging you in your extraneous rant I am prepared to tangle with you on one or two points:
You should read a little more widely on these issues than the columns of you own paper, the biased and tendentious Times of Israel. But even reading from the report you quote what is clear is that Mahmoud Abbas did not refuse to accept Palestinian refugees from Syria. Indeed it was he that requested, via the United Nations, their admittance to the West Bank. What Abbas refused to accept was the cynical and coercive condition of the Israeli authorities that the refugees each sign a document giving up their universally recognized legal right to return to what is now Israel. It is interesting to note that no Israeli government spokesperson has come forward to defend that indefensible ruse.
Your dismissive phrase, 'the so-called "Right of Return"' does not alter in the slightest the rights, enshrined in international law, of the Palestinian refugees driven from their homes in Israel's violent military campaigns of ethnic cleansing. Indeed, the only "so-called Right of Return" is the self- referential right claimed by Zionist Jews, which claims to derive from Biblical and obscurantist notions that have no place in public discourse.
The argument that a just settlement of the claims of Palestinian refugees will destroy Israel from within (to use your tired and emotive phrase) is to use pretty much the same argument as the white defenders of apartheid South Africa and you must know is anti-democratic and unworthy. But if you wish to avoid that fate you and people like you living in what the entire planet regards as occupied Palestinian territory will have to withdraw behind 1967 lines and permit the establishment of a Palestinian state where the only people voting in Jerusalem will be citizens of Palestine.

]]> http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/swinging-both-ways-at-the-polling-place/#comment-89798 Matthew Bird Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:59:55 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=96958#comment-89798 Heddy Abramowitz

]]> http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/swinging-both-ways-at-the-polling-place/#comment-89786 Michael Chester Thu, 24 Jan 2013 16:11:00 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=96958#comment-89786 Or you'll be getting a reputation for slipperiness and intellectual dishonesty.

]]> http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/swinging-both-ways-at-the-polling-place/#comment-89784 Michael Chester Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:35:06 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=96958#comment-89784 You should restore fully your reply to Matthew so that your readers will know what I am referring to in my response.

]]> http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/swinging-both-ways-at-the-polling-place/#comment-89796 Michael Chester Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:02:46 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=96958#comment-89796 Heddy Abramowitz
You should restore fully your reply to Matthew so that your readers will know what I am referring to in my response

]]> http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/swinging-both-ways-at-the-polling-place/#comment-89794 Michael Chester Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:19:08 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=96958#comment-89794 You should restore fully your reply to Matthew so that your readers know what I am referring to in my response.

]]> http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/swinging-both-ways-at-the-polling-place/#comment-89792 Michael Chester Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:04:19 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=96958#comment-89792 You should restore fully your reply to Matthew so that your readers know what I am referring to in my response.

]]> http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/swinging-both-ways-at-the-polling-place/#comment-89790 Michael Chester Wed, 23 Jan 2013 18:25:35 +0000 http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/?p=96958#comment-89790 Heddy Abramowitz

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