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	<title>Comments on: Tesla is selling the wrong story on electric cars</title>
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		<title>By: Todd Glider</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/tesla-not-so-supercharger/#comment-123904</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Glider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 17:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A friend of mine living in Chicago bought one. Loves it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine living in Chicago bought one. Loves it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sagee Schnaittacher</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/tesla-not-so-supercharger/#comment-123856</link>
		<dc:creator>Sagee Schnaittacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 17:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I forgot to mention, if you want o sell a &quot;crappy place car&quot;  you have to call them and ask permission.  What do you think, will that go well in the states?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention, if you want o sell a &quot;crappy place car&quot;  you have to call them and ask permission.  What do you think, will that go well in the states?</p>
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		<title>By: Sagee Schnaittacher</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/tesla-not-so-supercharger/#comment-123854</link>
		<dc:creator>Sagee Schnaittacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 17:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian of London are you sure you are not Brian of Better place?  How can you compare a car that gets a 500KM range and a piece of crap that gets a 100KM range? 
You don&#039;t have to charge your car?  That&#039;s right, there is infrastructure that has been laid out for no reason.  You can drive a tesla from the north tip of israel to eilat without a need for a charge, but you will need to stop 6 or 7 times.  Sounds fun.  Also, the most important issue with better place, and why  I am so happy this company will be wound up soon is its all a BS scam to charge you x10 the true cost of electricity.  Its amazing, the only reason to by an EV is to lower the cost of gas, but its exactly the opposite, it costs more than running a gas car, its ludicrous.
A tesla with a 50KWh battery will cost you $5 to fill up here, the gas equivalent is around $100, so you are saving 95% on gas, its wonderful.  With Shitty place as I like to call it, you pay more for electricity than gas.  Something that Brian from betterpace is not telling you since he is getting paid to write BS.

Also, you mentioned the articles in the times where the guy could not drive the advertised range.  did you also mention he was paid off by gas companies to botch up the story.  Did you mention that tesla was monitoring him and recorded him driving around in circles till kill the battery for over an hour?

Brian of better place, go buy a tesla, they will be available in israel soon.  Cant think of a more perfect place for them.  we live on a virtual island.  Don&#039;t know many people that even drive more than 150Km a day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian of London are you sure you are not Brian of Better place?  How can you compare a car that gets a 500KM range and a piece of crap that gets a 100KM range?<br />
You don&#039;t have to charge your car?  That&#039;s right, there is infrastructure that has been laid out for no reason.  You can drive a tesla from the north tip of israel to eilat without a need for a charge, but you will need to stop 6 or 7 times.  Sounds fun.  Also, the most important issue with better place, and why  I am so happy this company will be wound up soon is its all a BS scam to charge you x10 the true cost of electricity.  Its amazing, the only reason to by an EV is to lower the cost of gas, but its exactly the opposite, it costs more than running a gas car, its ludicrous.<br />
A tesla with a 50KWh battery will cost you $5 to fill up here, the gas equivalent is around $100, so you are saving 95% on gas, its wonderful.  With Shitty place as I like to call it, you pay more for electricity than gas.  Something that Brian from betterpace is not telling you since he is getting paid to write BS.</p>
<p>Also, you mentioned the articles in the times where the guy could not drive the advertised range.  did you also mention he was paid off by gas companies to botch up the story.  Did you mention that tesla was monitoring him and recorded him driving around in circles till kill the battery for over an hour?</p>
<p>Brian of better place, go buy a tesla, they will be available in israel soon.  Cant think of a more perfect place for them.  we live on a virtual island.  Don&#039;t know many people that even drive more than 150Km a day.</p>
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		<title>By: Guillermo Iturriaga</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/tesla-not-so-supercharger/#comment-108560</link>
		<dc:creator>Guillermo Iturriaga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Mar 2013 02:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Read the article to which comes the word &quot;electric car conversion&quot;, I realized that his vision is very vague about it. A conversion involves removing the internal combustion engine, and install an electric motor and a battery system demases accessories.

I have a company that operates in &quot;Chile&quot; and is dedicated to professionally convert any car to electric.

This is cheaper than buying a brand new electric car.

Your inquiries can be made to : Mr. Guillermo Iturriaga EMAIL: giturriaga1@hotmail.com LASER BEAM TECHNOLOGY CHILE LTDA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the article to which comes the word &quot;electric car conversion&quot;, I realized that his vision is very vague about it. A conversion involves removing the internal combustion engine, and install an electric motor and a battery system demases accessories.</p>
<p>I have a company that operates in &quot;Chile&quot; and is dedicated to professionally convert any car to electric.</p>
<p>This is cheaper than buying a brand new electric car.</p>
<p>Your inquiries can be made to : Mr. Guillermo Iturriaga EMAIL: <a href="mailto:giturriaga1@hotmail.com">giturriaga1@hotmail.com</a> LASER BEAM TECHNOLOGY CHILE LTDA.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian John Thomas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/tesla-not-so-supercharger/#comment-100360</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian John Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 23:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yup, right attitude: I did just take my Renault down to Eilat needing 4 battery changes each way. As it was I was travelling with a 6 year old who needed to pee about as frequently as my battery needed changing, but if I had to do that trip often I&#039;d prefer my wife&#039;s diesel 4x4.

The only difference is that the diesel costs me at least twice the money per km of my Better Place car and I&#039;ve pre-paid that for the next 4 years!

Tesla could engineer to fit Better Place&#039;s model. It&#039;s not hard or expensive. If they did that, a 40 kWh model is all they&#039;d need. My return trip to Eilat used 130kWh (I suspect the Tesla S especially with the big battery would use more as it&#039;s heavy). Without a switch you need a 60kWh Tesla each way I suspect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, right attitude: I did just take my Renault down to Eilat needing 4 battery changes each way. As it was I was travelling with a 6 year old who needed to pee about as frequently as my battery needed changing, but if I had to do that trip often I&#039;d prefer my wife&#039;s diesel 4&#215;4.</p>
<p>The only difference is that the diesel costs me at least twice the money per km of my Better Place car and I&#039;ve pre-paid that for the next 4 years!</p>
<p>Tesla could engineer to fit Better Place&#039;s model. It&#039;s not hard or expensive. If they did that, a 40 kWh model is all they&#039;d need. My return trip to Eilat used 130kWh (I suspect the Tesla S especially with the big battery would use more as it&#039;s heavy). Without a switch you need a 60kWh Tesla each way I suspect.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunil Bhargava</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/tesla-not-so-supercharger/#comment-96454</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunil Bhargava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2013 19:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think your point about local use is a great one. I just got a tesla and I think of it as a city car. If I need to drive to Tahoe from San francisco I would simply rent a car. I also love the idea of a replaceable battery, but the tesla battery is a 1000 pounds and its placement is integral to the usability of the car - low center of gravity and lots of space for passenger use. I am not holding my breath for a replaceable one. But the super chargers are revolutionary themselves as they are solar powered so the (net) energy is coming from the sun and not from a power plant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your point about local use is a great one. I just got a tesla and I think of it as a city car. If I need to drive to Tahoe from San francisco I would simply rent a car. I also love the idea of a replaceable battery, but the tesla battery is a 1000 pounds and its placement is integral to the usability of the car &#8211; low center of gravity and lots of space for passenger use. I am not holding my breath for a replaceable one. But the super chargers are revolutionary themselves as they are solar powered so the (net) energy is coming from the sun and not from a power plant.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Hoogendoorn</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/tesla-not-so-supercharger/#comment-96060</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel Hoogendoorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Elon Musk has published the log data. In his blog on the Tesla website titled &quot;A Most Peculiar Test Drive&quot; Elon does a point by point debunking of the New York Times &quot;review&quot;. So much for publishing the truth. It seems that the New York Times allowed what accounts to libel to be widely published and then had the nerve to say it was factual. Tesla should sue them, though that might not be good PR.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elon Musk has published the log data. In his blog on the Tesla website titled &quot;A Most Peculiar Test Drive&quot; Elon does a point by point debunking of the New York Times &quot;review&quot;. So much for publishing the truth. It seems that the New York Times allowed what accounts to libel to be widely published and then had the nerve to say it was factual. Tesla should sue them, though that might not be good PR.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Hoogendoorn</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/tesla-not-so-supercharger/#comment-96062</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel Hoogendoorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Precisely; different market, different features, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Precisely; different market, different features, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian John Thomas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/tesla-not-so-supercharger/#comment-95738</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian John Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/elon-musk-apologises-for-trusting-the-new-york-times-to-be-truthful/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/elon-musk-apologises-for-trusting-the-new-york-times-to-be-truthful/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/elon-musk-apologises-for-trusting-the-new-york-times-to-be-truthful/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brian John Thomas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/tesla-not-so-supercharger/#comment-95736</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian John Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I kinda went with the earlier less expletive version.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kinda went with the earlier less expletive version.</p>
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		<title>By: Jono Rose</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/tesla-not-so-supercharger/#comment-95712</link>
		<dc:creator>Jono Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe the quote is &quot;new shit has come to light&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the quote is &quot;new shit has come to light&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: אבי קסנר</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/tesla-not-so-supercharger/#comment-95710</link>
		<dc:creator>אבי קסנר</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I assume you are referring to this? http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/most-peculiar-test-drive]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume you are referring to this? <a href="http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/most-peculiar-test-drive" rel="nofollow">http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/most-peculiar-test-drive</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Paul Rose</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/tesla-not-so-supercharger/#comment-95688</link>
		<dc:creator>David Paul Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are absolutely correct, the only thing is that the Tesla in Israel would be so prohibitively expensive, in the area of 400K NIS (while the Fluence ZE is 122K NIS) that it really is not a competition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are absolutely correct, the only thing is that the Tesla in Israel would be so prohibitively expensive, in the area of 400K NIS (while the Fluence ZE is 122K NIS) that it really is not a competition.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian John Thomas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/tesla-not-so-supercharger/#comment-95668</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian John Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[New post to follow.... as the Big Lewowski once said &quot; I&#039;ve got certain information, all right? Certain things have come to light. &quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New post to follow&#8230;. as the Big Lewowski once said &quot; I&#039;ve got certain information, all right? Certain things have come to light. &quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian John Thomas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/tesla-not-so-supercharger/#comment-95670</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian John Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[New post to follow.... as the Big Lewowski once said &quot; I&#039;ve got certain information, all right? Certain things have come to light. &quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New post to follow&#8230;. as the Big Lewowski once said &quot; I&#039;ve got certain information, all right? Certain things have come to light. &quot;</p>
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