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		<title>By: Deborah Felsenthal</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-angry-american-male/#comment-78380</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah Felsenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 19:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not to mention referencing his own book right at the beginning... sigh...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention referencing his own book right at the beginning&#8230; sigh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Felsenthal</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-angry-american-male/#comment-78378</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah Felsenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed, this is someone who spun a sensitive story for their own agenda.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, this is someone who spun a sensitive story for their own agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: Elad Nehorai</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-angry-american-male/#comment-78356</link>
		<dc:creator>Elad Nehorai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry, Rabbi, but this article is deeply troublesome to me.  Although many of the points you bring out are important, such as the anger in America, the high divorce rate in our country, and more, the fact that you attach all these arguments to the attack at Sandy Hook is naive at best and manipulative at worst.

Your article provides no research or backup.  In short, no facts.  Everything you discuss is conjecture.

For example, did you know that the vast majority of school shooters come from stable two-parent homes?

Did you know that many killers are motivated by &quot;evil&quot; motives (ie are psychopaths) but also many are truly disturbed, like Cho?  And yet, you immediately jump to the conclusion that Lanza was &quot;diabolically evil&quot;.

You say yourself that you aren&#039;t coming to provide an answer for mass shootings.  So why do you bring it up?  Why is it a theme of your piece at all?  Why not simply write a piece about angry men, about broken homes, and more?

The only answer that I can come up with is that you are trying to get more people to read your article.  Whether that is the case or not (I hope it isn&#039;t), what you have done by publishing this article is continuing the cycle of misinformation and myths that surround these shootings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m sorry, Rabbi, but this article is deeply troublesome to me.  Although many of the points you bring out are important, such as the anger in America, the high divorce rate in our country, and more, the fact that you attach all these arguments to the attack at Sandy Hook is naive at best and manipulative at worst.</p>
<p>Your article provides no research or backup.  In short, no facts.  Everything you discuss is conjecture.</p>
<p>For example, did you know that the vast majority of school shooters come from stable two-parent homes?</p>
<p>Did you know that many killers are motivated by &quot;evil&quot; motives (ie are psychopaths) but also many are truly disturbed, like Cho?  And yet, you immediately jump to the conclusion that Lanza was &quot;diabolically evil&quot;.</p>
<p>You say yourself that you aren&#039;t coming to provide an answer for mass shootings.  So why do you bring it up?  Why is it a theme of your piece at all?  Why not simply write a piece about angry men, about broken homes, and more?</p>
<p>The only answer that I can come up with is that you are trying to get more people to read your article.  Whether that is the case or not (I hope it isn&#039;t), what you have done by publishing this article is continuing the cycle of misinformation and myths that surround these shootings.</p>
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		<title>By: Elad Nehorai</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-angry-american-male/#comment-78358</link>
		<dc:creator>Elad Nehorai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry, Rabbi, but this article is deeply troublesome to me.  Although many of the points you bring out are important, such as the anger in America, the high divorce rate in our country, and more, the fact that you attach all these arguments to the attack at Sandy Hook is naive at best and manipulative at worst.

Your article provides no research or backup.  In short, no facts.  Everything you discuss is conjecture.

For example, did you know that the vast majority of school shooters come from stable two-parent homes?

Did you know that many killers are motivated by &quot;evil&quot; motives (ie are psychopaths) but also many are truly disturbed, like Cho?  And yet, you immediately jump to the conclusion that Lanza was &quot;diabolically evil&quot;.

You say yourself that you aren&#039;t coming to provide an answer for mass shootings.  So why do you bring it up?  Why is it a theme of your piece at all?  Why not simply write a piece about angry men, about broken homes, and more?

The only answer that I can come up with is that you are trying to get more people to read your article.  Whether that is the case or not (I hope it isn&#039;t), what you have done by publishing this article is continuing the cycle of misinformation and myths that surround these shootings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m sorry, Rabbi, but this article is deeply troublesome to me.  Although many of the points you bring out are important, such as the anger in America, the high divorce rate in our country, and more, the fact that you attach all these arguments to the attack at Sandy Hook is naive at best and manipulative at worst.</p>
<p>Your article provides no research or backup.  In short, no facts.  Everything you discuss is conjecture.</p>
<p>For example, did you know that the vast majority of school shooters come from stable two-parent homes?</p>
<p>Did you know that many killers are motivated by &quot;evil&quot; motives (ie are psychopaths) but also many are truly disturbed, like Cho?  And yet, you immediately jump to the conclusion that Lanza was &quot;diabolically evil&quot;.</p>
<p>You say yourself that you aren&#039;t coming to provide an answer for mass shootings.  So why do you bring it up?  Why is it a theme of your piece at all?  Why not simply write a piece about angry men, about broken homes, and more?</p>
<p>The only answer that I can come up with is that you are trying to get more people to read your article.  Whether that is the case or not (I hope it isn&#039;t), what you have done by publishing this article is continuing the cycle of misinformation and myths that surround these shootings.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-angry-american-male/#comment-78178</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have a gun law... it is called the Second Amendment, the right of the people to keep and bear arms.

It is who we are and any law that violates it will be thrown out by the Courts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a gun law&#8230; it is called the Second Amendment, the right of the people to keep and bear arms.</p>
<p>It is who we are and any law that violates it will be thrown out by the Courts.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo Cummings</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-angry-american-male/#comment-78004</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo Cummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 08:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just read this, and sadly for me I agree with most everything said in it.  One truth a favorite Christian speaker of mine put simply goes like this.  &#039;A need met equals health, and a need unmet equals sickness.&#039;  When all else fails human beings should have a &#039;moral compass&#039; to guide them.  The more I hear of people going berserk and lashing out at society, the more I believe that person had no moral compass to rely upon.  And if it isn&#039;t there, then in 9 out of 10 cases the people who should have helped create and then nurture it failed for some very poor reasons.  Reasons such as their own selfishness or apathy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read this, and sadly for me I agree with most everything said in it.  One truth a favorite Christian speaker of mine put simply goes like this.  &#039;A need met equals health, and a need unmet equals sickness.&#039;  When all else fails human beings should have a &#039;moral compass&#039; to guide them.  The more I hear of people going berserk and lashing out at society, the more I believe that person had no moral compass to rely upon.  And if it isn&#039;t there, then in 9 out of 10 cases the people who should have helped create and then nurture it failed for some very poor reasons.  Reasons such as their own selfishness or apathy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dov Blair Epstein</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-angry-american-male/#comment-78006</link>
		<dc:creator>Dov Blair Epstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 08:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shmuely Boteach adheres to the conceit that HE can solve america&#039;s problems, and that what he tries to do with his appearances, and such. The jews in america need to come here, he, included, and stop the self-delusion. hE collects a nice salary, but his JOB is HERE.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shmuely Boteach adheres to the conceit that HE can solve america&#039;s problems, and that what he tries to do with his appearances, and such. The jews in america need to come here, he, included, and stop the self-delusion. hE collects a nice salary, but his JOB is HERE.</p>
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		<title>By: Dror Ben Ami</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-angry-american-male/#comment-78002</link>
		<dc:creator>Dror Ben Ami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 07:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[..$10,000 Challenge: Can you Prove that Judaism Does Indeed Pass Thru the Mother? 
http://drorbenami987.hubpages.com/hub/Torah-Metaphors-A-10-000-Challange]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..$10,000 Challenge: Can you Prove that Judaism Does Indeed Pass Thru the Mother?<br />
<a href="http://drorbenami987.hubpages.com/hub/Torah-Metaphors-A-10-000-Challange" rel="nofollow">http://drorbenami987.hubpages.com/hub/Torah-Metaphors-A-10-000-Challange</a></p>
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		<title>By: Felicity Schaeffer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-angry-american-male/#comment-77964</link>
		<dc:creator>Felicity Schaeffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 07:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[America has invited G-d to leave them alone, to get out of their schools, and Government. What does everyone expect? He will not leave willingly, nor quickly, but leave He will, if they continue to try and erase Him from their memories. You may not agree, but I don&#039;t care. If we all don&#039;t use this time for serious soul searching, and change, I foresee absolute disaster ahead, and its NOT His will. 
As you all know, G-d protects us thru our conscience&#039;s, but if we keep pushing His voice down, it becomes more and more faint, then what....the unthinkable happens, and He gets the blame.
Why is it that the perpetrator of these horrors is never some average Yeshiva student? Because, hopefully he is still listening to his conscience. That&#039;s the difference, those of us that can still hear His voice in our conscience, and heed it, will dwell in safety. 
Are there any history students out there, has G-d changed? NO, He has not. This tragedy was neither His will, nor His fault. Americans are the ones that have invited Him to leave, and what will fill the void when His presence is no longer there? Jealousy, hatred, and ultimately death. Men and Women looking for something that is no longer there. 
In my opinion, America wants His blessing of protection, and mercy, but not Him. Who do they think they are dealing with? How presumptuous. They need to be honest, humble, and turn back to Him, before He takes them up on their invitation to stay away, completely. Once again, that invitation was NOT His will or idea, it was theirs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>America has invited G-d to leave them alone, to get out of their schools, and Government. What does everyone expect? He will not leave willingly, nor quickly, but leave He will, if they continue to try and erase Him from their memories. You may not agree, but I don&#039;t care. If we all don&#039;t use this time for serious soul searching, and change, I foresee absolute disaster ahead, and its NOT His will.<br />
As you all know, G-d protects us thru our conscience&#039;s, but if we keep pushing His voice down, it becomes more and more faint, then what&#8230;.the unthinkable happens, and He gets the blame.<br />
Why is it that the perpetrator of these horrors is never some average Yeshiva student? Because, hopefully he is still listening to his conscience. That&#039;s the difference, those of us that can still hear His voice in our conscience, and heed it, will dwell in safety.<br />
Are there any history students out there, has G-d changed? NO, He has not. This tragedy was neither His will, nor His fault. Americans are the ones that have invited Him to leave, and what will fill the void when His presence is no longer there? Jealousy, hatred, and ultimately death. Men and Women looking for something that is no longer there.<br />
In my opinion, America wants His blessing of protection, and mercy, but not Him. Who do they think they are dealing with? How presumptuous. They need to be honest, humble, and turn back to Him, before He takes them up on their invitation to stay away, completely. Once again, that invitation was NOT His will or idea, it was theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael W. Perry</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-angry-american-male/#comment-77952</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael W. Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 01:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone who gushes with enthusiasm for what Michael Jackson has to say really shouldn&#039;t try to take the moral high ground in any dispute involving harm to children. Jackson is a bit worse than &quot;tragic.&quot;

And the &quot;anger American male&quot; (usually with &quot;white&quot;) included is an old, tattered and long discredited bromide. The rate of violent crime in America is actually going down, which suggests less rather than more rage. It&#039;s the UK and France who have problems with rising levels of violence. And what violence we do have typically flows out of the drug trade, with dealers killing other dealers. A large social angst has little to do with it.

And if the number of mass killings plus suicides are rising, blame that on our news media. It&#039;s the only way these demented losers can have their fifteen minutes of fame. These stories need to be covered, but not with the feeding frenzy they get, and they should be allowed to die a quick death, not to launch  long-discredited campaigns for more gun control. Disarmed ordinary people won&#039;t protect anyone. Israel did the right thing when it responded to terrorism directed at schools by arming teachers.

I might add that even a child can see that, with almost all these killings taking place in no-gun zones, turning our nation into a no-gun zone isn&#039;t the answer. Norway has almost done that and their mass killing was far larger than any in the U.S. Here, within minutes, neighbors would have been landing on the island armed to the teeth. There, they waited 90 minutes for the police to arrive. The gutlessness of Norwegian youth, most never exposed to guns or the necessity to fight, was pitiful. They simply waited to be shot. Sad.

I do agree, however, that broken families, as well as families that never form, do contribute our social ills. Absent a dependable, in-the-home father, young men often turn violent and young women promiscuous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone who gushes with enthusiasm for what Michael Jackson has to say really shouldn&#039;t try to take the moral high ground in any dispute involving harm to children. Jackson is a bit worse than &quot;tragic.&quot;</p>
<p>And the &quot;anger American male&quot; (usually with &quot;white&quot;) included is an old, tattered and long discredited bromide. The rate of violent crime in America is actually going down, which suggests less rather than more rage. It&#039;s the UK and France who have problems with rising levels of violence. And what violence we do have typically flows out of the drug trade, with dealers killing other dealers. A large social angst has little to do with it.</p>
<p>And if the number of mass killings plus suicides are rising, blame that on our news media. It&#039;s the only way these demented losers can have their fifteen minutes of fame. These stories need to be covered, but not with the feeding frenzy they get, and they should be allowed to die a quick death, not to launch  long-discredited campaigns for more gun control. Disarmed ordinary people won&#039;t protect anyone. Israel did the right thing when it responded to terrorism directed at schools by arming teachers.</p>
<p>I might add that even a child can see that, with almost all these killings taking place in no-gun zones, turning our nation into a no-gun zone isn&#039;t the answer. Norway has almost done that and their mass killing was far larger than any in the U.S. Here, within minutes, neighbors would have been landing on the island armed to the teeth. There, they waited 90 minutes for the police to arrive. The gutlessness of Norwegian youth, most never exposed to guns or the necessity to fight, was pitiful. They simply waited to be shot. Sad.</p>
<p>I do agree, however, that broken families, as well as families that never form, do contribute our social ills. Absent a dependable, in-the-home father, young men often turn violent and young women promiscuous.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Marks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 00:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolutely. I&#039;m interested to know how you can qualify the statement &#039;let America sort out its own problems&#039; without coming up against numerous brick walls.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely. I&#039;m interested to know how you can qualify the statement &#039;let America sort out its own problems&#039; without coming up against numerous brick walls.</p>
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		<title>By: Dov Blair Epstein</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-angry-american-male/#comment-77936</link>
		<dc:creator>Dov Blair Epstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 23:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Robert Marks You&#039;re talking to me?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Robert Marks You&#039;re talking to me?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Smith</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-angry-american-male/#comment-77934</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 22:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For someone who doesn&#039;t know why, Shmuley sure uses a lot of words to speculate... and given how badly he missed what was going on with Joseph and his brothers, it&#039;s impossible to see how he could be right about the other.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For someone who doesn&#039;t know why, Shmuley sure uses a lot of words to speculate&#8230; and given how badly he missed what was going on with Joseph and his brothers, it&#039;s impossible to see how he could be right about the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Marks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 18:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rather isolationist, no?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather isolationist, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 18:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rabbi,

You state, &quot;only cowards would refuse to hold a national conversation now about gun laws, which is necessary at this juncture, whatever the conclusions.&quot; I&#039;d like to know your conclusions. The implied point is that guns are the problem, or at least that we need to go further to limiting access to them by law-abiding citizens. As Thomas Sowell notes, &quot;The key fallacy of so-called gun-control laws is that such laws do not in fact control guns. They simply disarm law-abiding citizens, while people bent on violence find firearms readily available.&quot; The more one looks into the impact of these laws, the more one can see there is actually some counter-intuitive logic going on. Like most good-natured drive - with government regulation the actual impact on the ground actual works against our designs. I&#039;d prefer to have a firearm to protect my family, the same way Mrs. Lanza legally owned firearms. DWI kills thousands of people every year, but who is prepared to make drinking a &quot;national conversation&quot;. This is political code language for more gun control - which displaces the real conversation.

However, aside from the gun discussion (a regrettable flippant note early on in your article), I very much agree with your point that this is an issue of culture. Of family. Of who we are. The true destructive forces at work in our society. Broken families, no social/family support systems, and a moral relativism that leaves young people afloat and alone. The permutation and glorification of narcissism. The same Hollywood stars tweeting about gun control are pumping out movie after movie with mass murder. First-Person-Shooter games are used by each one of these animals. What&#039;s a role model? Snark and cynicism is everywhere. So my second question of my post: what to do about it?

Thanks, Rabbi]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rabbi,</p>
<p>You state, &quot;only cowards would refuse to hold a national conversation now about gun laws, which is necessary at this juncture, whatever the conclusions.&quot; I&#039;d like to know your conclusions. The implied point is that guns are the problem, or at least that we need to go further to limiting access to them by law-abiding citizens. As Thomas Sowell notes, &quot;The key fallacy of so-called gun-control laws is that such laws do not in fact control guns. They simply disarm law-abiding citizens, while people bent on violence find firearms readily available.&quot; The more one looks into the impact of these laws, the more one can see there is actually some counter-intuitive logic going on. Like most good-natured drive &#8211; with government regulation the actual impact on the ground actual works against our designs. I&#039;d prefer to have a firearm to protect my family, the same way Mrs. Lanza legally owned firearms. DWI kills thousands of people every year, but who is prepared to make drinking a &quot;national conversation&quot;. This is political code language for more gun control &#8211; which displaces the real conversation.</p>
<p>However, aside from the gun discussion (a regrettable flippant note early on in your article), I very much agree with your point that this is an issue of culture. Of family. Of who we are. The true destructive forces at work in our society. Broken families, no social/family support systems, and a moral relativism that leaves young people afloat and alone. The permutation and glorification of narcissism. The same Hollywood stars tweeting about gun control are pumping out movie after movie with mass murder. First-Person-Shooter games are used by each one of these animals. What&#039;s a role model? Snark and cynicism is everywhere. So my second question of my post: what to do about it?</p>
<p>Thanks, Rabbi</p>
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