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		<title>By: Rebecca Johnstone</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/viewing-palestinian-statehood-through-the-clear-lens-of-morality/#comment-76450</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca Johnstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 15:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are Palestinians entitled to, and ready for statehood? That&#039;s two questions with several answers.

Are they entitled to a state - of course not.  They are a people made up in the 60, have never been a nation, or even a unified body, have never had a claim to the land.  In any case, what ENTITLES any nation to a state?  States happen, come into existence, are created.  Most states in this area are a result of empires giving land to those who support them. Do the Jordanian Kings deserve their state?  Obviously their help to the British empire made them deserving, not their nationalist status. 
That does not mean that the the Pals will not get a state.  Facts on the ground make it almost impossible to live in any form or peace without them being granted that. So yes, deserving or entitled to or neither, the Palestinian State at least in some form is already a fact on the ground. So far it&#039;s not an independent state but it has a government, and areas that it governs, etc. 

Are they ready for statehood - well the new black government of Nelson Mandela was more ready than these money grabbing Arab Palestinian leadership, but the Blacks were considered ready for statehood and got it.  Look what they have done to South Africa. (Same can be said of Zimbabwe or much of Africa, which is very close to the middle east).  Does the world still consider the South African or Zimbabwe governmental ready for statehood - obviously yes. 

So basically the question/s might be moral to ask, but are totally irreverent. 
Our world is not big on Morals these days.  Just look at the UN and UNHRC.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are Palestinians entitled to, and ready for statehood? That&#039;s two questions with several answers.</p>
<p>Are they entitled to a state &#8211; of course not.  They are a people made up in the 60, have never been a nation, or even a unified body, have never had a claim to the land.  In any case, what ENTITLES any nation to a state?  States happen, come into existence, are created.  Most states in this area are a result of empires giving land to those who support them. Do the Jordanian Kings deserve their state?  Obviously their help to the British empire made them deserving, not their nationalist status.<br />
That does not mean that the the Pals will not get a state.  Facts on the ground make it almost impossible to live in any form or peace without them being granted that. So yes, deserving or entitled to or neither, the Palestinian State at least in some form is already a fact on the ground. So far it&#039;s not an independent state but it has a government, and areas that it governs, etc. </p>
<p>Are they ready for statehood &#8211; well the new black government of Nelson Mandela was more ready than these money grabbing Arab Palestinian leadership, but the Blacks were considered ready for statehood and got it.  Look what they have done to South Africa. (Same can be said of Zimbabwe or much of Africa, which is very close to the middle east).  Does the world still consider the South African or Zimbabwe governmental ready for statehood &#8211; obviously yes. </p>
<p>So basically the question/s might be moral to ask, but are totally irreverent.<br />
Our world is not big on Morals these days.  Just look at the UN and UNHRC.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon Goldman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/viewing-palestinian-statehood-through-the-clear-lens-of-morality/#comment-76278</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharon Goldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 22:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting piece by Daniel Pearl&#039;s father.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting piece by Daniel Pearl&#039;s father.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Singh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/viewing-palestinian-statehood-through-the-clear-lens-of-morality/#comment-76124</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Only Israel thinks it occupies the moral high ground. 
By countering criticism by labelling those who do criticise Israel as immoral, is a path taken by those who have run out of answers and refuse to look reality in the face.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only Israel thinks it occupies the moral high ground.<br />
By countering criticism by labelling those who do criticise Israel as immoral, is a path taken by those who have run out of answers and refuse to look reality in the face.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Singh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/viewing-palestinian-statehood-through-the-clear-lens-of-morality/#comment-76126</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Only Israel thinks it occupies the moral high ground. 
By countering criticism by labelling those who do criticise Israel as immoral, is a path taken by those who have run out of answers and refuse to look reality in the face.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only Israel thinks it occupies the moral high ground.<br />
By countering criticism by labelling those who do criticise Israel as immoral, is a path taken by those who have run out of answers and refuse to look reality in the face.</p>
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		<title>By: Gil Reich</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/viewing-palestinian-statehood-through-the-clear-lens-of-morality/#comment-76084</link>
		<dc:creator>Gil Reich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Spoken like someone with moral clarity and intelligence, but IMO diplomatic naivete. The other side&#039;s choices aren&#039;t binary: accept or reject. It will be closer to accept AND reject. They will use the proposal as Israeli acknowledgement that Israel must freeze the settlements and come to the table to discuss a solution based on 67 borders with some land swaps. They will belittle the differences over &quot;two peoples&quot; by calling it racist rejection of the Arab and Christian populations in Israel, and a rejection of their long history. They will finesse the &quot;end of conflict&quot; argument, and even if they agree to that, they can turn around upon any future disagreement and claim that in invalidates the agreement, just as by taking this UN vote they violated parts of Oslo that they didn&#039;t like, while keeping the parts that they did like, and while saying that we violated it first and more flagrantly so really what they did was OK. In short, they&#039;ll pocket our concessions and use them as the starting point for negotiations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spoken like someone with moral clarity and intelligence, but IMO diplomatic naivete. The other side&#039;s choices aren&#039;t binary: accept or reject. It will be closer to accept AND reject. They will use the proposal as Israeli acknowledgement that Israel must freeze the settlements and come to the table to discuss a solution based on 67 borders with some land swaps. They will belittle the differences over &quot;two peoples&quot; by calling it racist rejection of the Arab and Christian populations in Israel, and a rejection of their long history. They will finesse the &quot;end of conflict&quot; argument, and even if they agree to that, they can turn around upon any future disagreement and claim that in invalidates the agreement, just as by taking this UN vote they violated parts of Oslo that they didn&#039;t like, while keeping the parts that they did like, and while saying that we violated it first and more flagrantly so really what they did was OK. In short, they&#039;ll pocket our concessions and use them as the starting point for negotiations.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Perlman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/viewing-palestinian-statehood-through-the-clear-lens-of-morality/#comment-76090</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Perlman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your offering of letting Israel choose in which way to die is totally unehical, vile and wrong.  Israel has been steadfast on the moral highground and remains there. The problem is the slipping ever deeper of the Western World into the morass of immorality. Slipping with the aid of Muslim oil.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your offering of letting Israel choose in which way to die is totally unehical, vile and wrong.  Israel has been steadfast on the moral highground and remains there. The problem is the slipping ever deeper of the Western World into the morass of immorality. Slipping with the aid of Muslim oil.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Singh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/viewing-palestinian-statehood-through-the-clear-lens-of-morality/#comment-76088</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ruben why hasnt any Israeli leader made such an offer? It would instantly reclaim the moral high ground for Israel. The world would back a 2 state solution with the 67 borders completely.
Its not difficult, but greed for more blinds Israel. The status quo remains for a few more years and the only inevitability then would be a one state solution, which is perhaps the best outcome]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruben why hasnt any Israeli leader made such an offer? It would instantly reclaim the moral high ground for Israel. The world would back a 2 state solution with the 67 borders completely.<br />
Its not difficult, but greed for more blinds Israel. The status quo remains for a few more years and the only inevitability then would be a one state solution, which is perhaps the best outcome</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Singh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/viewing-palestinian-statehood-through-the-clear-lens-of-morality/#comment-76086</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boost territory...!!  a sure fire recipe for completely undermining Israel. Even the 9 who sided with Israel will walk away. 
Is it arrogance or ignorance which bedevils you ? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boost territory&#8230;!!  a sure fire recipe for completely undermining Israel. Even the 9 who sided with Israel will walk away.<br />
Is it arrogance or ignorance which bedevils you ? </p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Singh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/viewing-palestinian-statehood-through-the-clear-lens-of-morality/#comment-76082</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If settlement activity is stopped and talks are offered to end the conflict with the aim of the 2 state solution, based on the 67 borders, Abbas would jump at it. Claiming otherwise is devious and stupid.
What morality is Israel talking about, after having ethnically cleansed a people from their homes of 2000 years?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If settlement activity is stopped and talks are offered to end the conflict with the aim of the 2 state solution, based on the 67 borders, Abbas would jump at it. Claiming otherwise is devious and stupid.<br />
What morality is Israel talking about, after having ethnically cleansed a people from their homes of 2000 years?</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Perlman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/viewing-palestinian-statehood-through-the-clear-lens-of-morality/#comment-76062</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Perlman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 09:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Israel&#039;s situation is like the game hangman, with the difference being that the game will never end until Israel is hanged. Begin drew the gallow when in the &#039;79 Camp David peace treaty with Egypt agreed to the mentioning of a &quot;Palestinian&quot; people. Before that, the Arabs of Judea, Samaria and Gaza were Arabs (mostly citizens of Jordan). With a few other mistakes along the way, Netanyahu put Israel&#039;s neck in the noose when he accepted the anti-Israel mantra &quot;the two state solution.&quot; This carefully constructed instrument of thought precludes any solution that could be of benefit to Israel and incorperates a win win solution for the Arabs. In essence they are telling Israel &quot;choose your poison.&quot; A &quot;two state solution guarentees another state for the Arabs with the expulsion of hundreds of thousands of Jews from their homes in Judea and Samaria and a non &quot;two state solution&quot; means a one state solution --- the turning of Israel into an Arabs state in-waiting. If the world can advance the notion that expelling hundreds of thousands of Jews and squeezing Israel into a 9 mile wide corridor or dissolving the state altogether then the morality of transferring the Arab population of Judea and Sameria over the Jordan River to &quot;eastern Palestine&quot; which comprises 80% of the British mandate and a population of which 80% call themselves &quot;Palestinians&quot; is no less moral.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel&#039;s situation is like the game hangman, with the difference being that the game will never end until Israel is hanged. Begin drew the gallow when in the &#039;79 Camp David peace treaty with Egypt agreed to the mentioning of a &quot;Palestinian&quot; people. Before that, the Arabs of Judea, Samaria and Gaza were Arabs (mostly citizens of Jordan). With a few other mistakes along the way, Netanyahu put Israel&#039;s neck in the noose when he accepted the anti-Israel mantra &quot;the two state solution.&quot; This carefully constructed instrument of thought precludes any solution that could be of benefit to Israel and incorperates a win win solution for the Arabs. In essence they are telling Israel &quot;choose your poison.&quot; A &quot;two state solution guarentees another state for the Arabs with the expulsion of hundreds of thousands of Jews from their homes in Judea and Samaria and a non &quot;two state solution&quot; means a one state solution &#8212; the turning of Israel into an Arabs state in-waiting. If the world can advance the notion that expelling hundreds of thousands of Jews and squeezing Israel into a 9 mile wide corridor or dissolving the state altogether then the morality of transferring the Arab population of Judea and Sameria over the Jordan River to &quot;eastern Palestine&quot; which comprises 80% of the British mandate and a population of which 80% call themselves &quot;Palestinians&quot; is no less moral.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once they get a state on 1967 borders what makes you think that UN won&#039;t adopt another resolution against Israel ( like return of refugees) by submitting to Palestinian demands? The only guarantee to Israel is political consistency, boost of Jewish population and territory.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once they get a state on 1967 borders what makes you think that UN won&#039;t adopt another resolution against Israel ( like return of refugees) by submitting to Palestinian demands? The only guarantee to Israel is political consistency, boost of Jewish population and territory.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Soran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Soran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just in: Abbas willing to fulfill the first condition (fresh from the news ticker :-)  ):

&quot;Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas urged the Arab League on Sunday not to withdraw its 2002 peace initiative as he called instead for renewed negotiations with Israel for six months.

He told the League in Doha he would demand that Israel freeze West Bank settlement construction and Jewish building in east Jerusalem during that time.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just in: Abbas willing to fulfill the first condition (fresh from the news ticker <img src='http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   ):</p>
<p>&quot;Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas urged the Arab League on Sunday not to withdraw its 2002 peace initiative as he called instead for renewed negotiations with Israel for six months.</p>
<p>He told the League in Doha he would demand that Israel freeze West Bank settlement construction and Jewish building in east Jerusalem during that time.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Soran</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/viewing-palestinian-statehood-through-the-clear-lens-of-morality/#comment-76002</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Soran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Admitting that Jews are a “people,” not merely a religion, would bestow legitimacy on the Zionist claim for a national homeland, and thus render the Arab rejectionist movement irrational, if not immoral.&quot;

Wow, Mr. Pearl, you are a professor of Computer Sciences? Allow me to tell you that your above statement is as false as a logical statement can be. Are you sure this is what you wanted to really say? Then,  you haven&#039;t even deserved a graduation in computer sciences.

There is no controversy between Israelis and Palestinians that Jews are a combination of religion and ethnicity and that they are a people. But there is a strong movement negating the right of Jews to establish a Jewish states in which Jews automatically - or by ways of ethnic minorities population control-  are ruling in a state formed according to the needs and will of its Jewish population only. There is no other state in the world that defines itself as being the state of just one  single ethno-religious group, which in addition also uses the most extreme and narrow admission rules to the group that the world has ever seen.   
The recognition of Israel as the Jewish State in the above sense  is rejected not only by Palestinians, but by millions of Jews, too, who don&#039;t accept the slogan &quot;Israel for the Jews&quot;, which sounds so much  like the &quot;Deutschland den Deutschen&quot; (Germany dfor the Germans) that built the foundation of the  Drittes Reich 1933-1945.   
You&#039;re suggesting the most ime moral nationalist concept that ever existed on Earth to be embraced by the Jews of Israel, too... The Germans called it 19933-1945: &quot;One people one land, one land one people&quot; (Ein Volk ein Land, ein Land ein Volk).

How does a traditional, authentic Jew use sayin&#039; in his everyday language? &quot;Geh kaken afen yam&quot; :-)

Otherwise it is a reasonable, simple, easy to implement proposition that would move the pressure points upon Abbas and PA.  Thank you, Mr. Pearl!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Admitting that Jews are a “people,” not merely a religion, would bestow legitimacy on the Zionist claim for a national homeland, and thus render the Arab rejectionist movement irrational, if not immoral.&quot;</p>
<p>Wow, Mr. Pearl, you are a professor of Computer Sciences? Allow me to tell you that your above statement is as false as a logical statement can be. Are you sure this is what you wanted to really say? Then,  you haven&#039;t even deserved a graduation in computer sciences.</p>
<p>There is no controversy between Israelis and Palestinians that Jews are a combination of religion and ethnicity and that they are a people. But there is a strong movement negating the right of Jews to establish a Jewish states in which Jews automatically &#8211; or by ways of ethnic minorities population control-  are ruling in a state formed according to the needs and will of its Jewish population only. There is no other state in the world that defines itself as being the state of just one  single ethno-religious group, which in addition also uses the most extreme and narrow admission rules to the group that the world has ever seen.<br />
The recognition of Israel as the Jewish State in the above sense  is rejected not only by Palestinians, but by millions of Jews, too, who don&#039;t accept the slogan &quot;Israel for the Jews&quot;, which sounds so much  like the &quot;Deutschland den Deutschen&quot; (Germany dfor the Germans) that built the foundation of the  Drittes Reich 1933-1945.<br />
You&#039;re suggesting the most ime moral nationalist concept that ever existed on Earth to be embraced by the Jews of Israel, too&#8230; The Germans called it 19933-1945: &quot;One people one land, one land one people&quot; (Ein Volk ein Land, ein Land ein Volk).</p>
<p>How does a traditional, authentic Jew use sayin&#039; in his everyday language? &quot;Geh kaken afen yam&quot; <img src='http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Otherwise it is a reasonable, simple, easy to implement proposition that would move the pressure points upon Abbas and PA.  Thank you, Mr. Pearl!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Soran</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/viewing-palestinian-statehood-through-the-clear-lens-of-morality/#comment-76004</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Soran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Admitting that Jews are a “people,” not merely a religion, would bestow legitimacy on the Zionist claim for a national homeland, and thus render the Arab rejectionist movement irrational, if not immoral.&quot;

Wow, Mr. Pearl, you are a professor of Computer Sciences? Allow me to tell you that your above statement is as false as a logical statement can be. Are you sure this is what you wanted to really say? Then,  you haven&#039;t even deserved a graduation in computer sciences.

There is no controversy between Israelis and Palestinians that Jews are a combination of religion and ethnicity and that they are a people. But there is a strong movement negating the right of Jews to establish a Jewish states in which Jews automatically - or by ways of ethnic minorities population control-  are ruling in a state formed according to the needs and will of its Jewish population only. There is no other state in the world that defines itself as being the state of just one  single ethno-religious group, which in addition also uses the most extreme and narrow admission rules to the group that the world has ever seen.   
The recognition of Israel as the Jewish State in the above sense  is rejected not only by Palestinians, but by millions of Jews, too, who don&#039;t accept the slogan &quot;Israel for the Jews&quot;, which sounds so much  like the &quot;Deutschland den Deutschen&quot; (Germany dfor the Germans) that built the foundation of the  Drittes Reich 1933-1945.   
You&#039;re suggesting the most ime moral nationalist concept that ever existed on Earth to be embraced by the Jews of Israel, too... The Germans called it 19933-1945: &quot;One people one land, one land one people&quot; (Ein Volk ein Land, ein Land ein Volk).

How does a traditional, authentic Jew use sayin&#039; in his everyday language? &quot;Geh kaken afen yam&quot; :-)

Otherwise it is a reasonable, simple, easy to implement proposition that would move the pressure points upon Abbas and PA.  Thank you, Mr. Pearl!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Admitting that Jews are a “people,” not merely a religion, would bestow legitimacy on the Zionist claim for a national homeland, and thus render the Arab rejectionist movement irrational, if not immoral.&quot;</p>
<p>Wow, Mr. Pearl, you are a professor of Computer Sciences? Allow me to tell you that your above statement is as false as a logical statement can be. Are you sure this is what you wanted to really say? Then,  you haven&#039;t even deserved a graduation in computer sciences.</p>
<p>There is no controversy between Israelis and Palestinians that Jews are a combination of religion and ethnicity and that they are a people. But there is a strong movement negating the right of Jews to establish a Jewish states in which Jews automatically &#8211; or by ways of ethnic minorities population control-  are ruling in a state formed according to the needs and will of its Jewish population only. There is no other state in the world that defines itself as being the state of just one  single ethno-religious group, which in addition also uses the most extreme and narrow admission rules to the group that the world has ever seen.<br />
The recognition of Israel as the Jewish State in the above sense  is rejected not only by Palestinians, but by millions of Jews, too, who don&#039;t accept the slogan &quot;Israel for the Jews&quot;, which sounds so much  like the &quot;Deutschland den Deutschen&quot; (Germany dfor the Germans) that built the foundation of the  Drittes Reich 1933-1945.<br />
You&#039;re suggesting the most ime moral nationalist concept that ever existed on Earth to be embraced by the Jews of Israel, too&#8230; The Germans called it 19933-1945: &quot;One people one land, one land one people&quot; (Ein Volk ein Land, ein Land ein Volk).</p>
<p>How does a traditional, authentic Jew use sayin&#039; in his everyday language? &quot;Geh kaken afen yam&quot; <img src='http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Otherwise it is a reasonable, simple, easy to implement proposition that would move the pressure points upon Abbas and PA.  Thank you, Mr. Pearl!</p>
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		<title>By: Levi Kofman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Levi Kofman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You the hell are they to give ultimatiums?]]></description>
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