Comments on: We have a great opportunity here

By: Gregory Aharfi

Gregory Aharfi — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 23:24:49 +0000

How convenient to rename 2% of the arabs "palestinians" ! (remembre 1947 when jews called themselves palestinians while muslims and christians prefered the term "arabs" ?) The truth is that palestiniasm is just a strategy to win against the jews. Tu put it simply : No jews = No palestinians.

By: Rachelle Ehven

Rachelle Ehven — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 22:10:27 +0000

Drivel. People , perhaps we should ignore the ignoramus and he will go away…he doesn't get it and he doesn't like us – if he was at all fair he would open a book once in a while.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:37:32 +0000

As the author points out, Yesh Atid is a 'mixed' religious secular party so their approach will likely be different than the wholly secular parties of past and present.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:37:32 +0000

As the author points out, Yesh Atid is a 'mixed' religious secular party so their approach will likely be different than the wholly secular parties of past and present.

By: Ravi Singh

Ravi Singh — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:07:46 +0000

So what are you going to do about what you call the culture monster? The Ababs dont have to deal with it… Israel does. Israel cannot apply the final solution to the Pals… so what does it do? Building settlements and wishing the problem away is not going to work. Get real

By: Glenn Perlman

Glenn Perlman — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 14:50:36 +0000

Ravi Singh “The 'Palestinians’ are a genocidal weapon masquerading as a nationality, created by the Arab world in 1964 to destroy Israel's legitimacy using a manipulated Western lexicon (alien to the Arab world) of human rights and 'anti-colonialism', punctuated by terrorism to keep the issue alive, and financed by petrodollars funneled primarily thru the UN. Western nations, not favorably inclined to Jews/Israel to begin with, with increasing Muslim minorities, and dependent on oil, find it expedient and easy to go along with this genocidal charade. Let the Arab world that created this monster of a 'culture' deal with it.”

By: Glenn Perlman

Glenn Perlman — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 14:47:20 +0000

Ravi Singh The war is over, Der Feurer is dead, you can put down your gun and go home.

By: Andy Myers

Andy Myers — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 12:57:00 +0000

Ravi Singh: You choose to completely ignore history. These Arabs were offered a state in the 1947 UN Assembly Partition Plan 1947, which they rejected and decided upon war. Furthermore why did the so called Palestinians not declare their state between 1948-1967 when Jordan and Egypt occupied the West Bank and Gaza respectively???!!! I challenge you to provide a clear rational answer to this question!!! The real answer if you don't know was because their true goal ( and still is ) to destroy Israel.

By: Ravi Singh

Ravi Singh — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 12:08:35 +0000

Whatever weight you give your argument, the fact remains that the world minus 2 or 3 % dont give any weight to it. The Palestinians/Arabs call them what you will, Are a peope who have been oppressed and ethnically cleansed by the ISRAELIS and treated like rubbish by the Arabs. They are now homeless … they have to be given a home…. you cant wish them away. Reality cant be ignored

By: Leo Raikhman

Leo Raikhman — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 08:01:45 +0000

Dear Ravi Singh,

Let me clue you in. Palestinians lost 0% of the land they had in 1948. There's a very simple explanation: there was no Palestinian entity governing the Palestinians in a nation prior to 1948.

In other words, the Palestinians had absolutely nothing and were going into the vote at the UN with exactly the same amount of land as the Jews: 0

At the time of the vote, the land had been ceded to the British under the Right of Conquest by the Ottomans at the end of WW1. The British had drawn up plans giving all the land – every single bit except Jordan, to the Jews.

In 1947 the Jews were informed that what they had been promised would be cut in half and half given to them, half to the Palestinians. They were somewhat disappointed.

At this point Jews had 0 land, and Palestinians had zero land.

During the vote, the Palestinians voted no and rejected all offers of land. The Jews accepted the offer of half of what they had originally been promised. At this point Israel had 51% of land, and the Palestinians had 0% because of their refusal.

Then the Palestinians went to war against Israel, promising to execute Hitler's legacy not three years after the Holocaust. They and their Arab jihadi mates got smashed to smithereens and Israel annexed land. The Palestinians still had 0 land, and Israel got about 78%.

Rinse and repeat until now – Palestinians keep launching wars and are surprised when they lose, then whine about land they lose in the process. If I was a Palestinian I might learn by now that shooting Jews does not equal land rights. I might however realise that land rights and de-settlement come with peace, as Israel has shown on two occasions when they de-settled the Sinai and gave it back to Egypt, and similarly with Jordan.

But hey, what would I know? After all, you're not going to listen to history, are you?

By: Ravi Singh

Ravi Singh — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 07:57:23 +0000

They are a people… call them Arab, Palestinian or whatever.
Israelis would want nothing better than shoving the Palestinians/Arabs into Jordan and making a greater Israel only for Jews. However its important to stay rooted in reality, as much as you may want to be rid of these inconvenient people, they are not going to go any place else.
Israel, a home to some of the wisest people on earth, is inexplicably blind to the reality around them. The biggest danger facing Israel is not a military threat but international isolation, which is gathering steam very very quickly as the status quo remains.
If Israel were to offer the 67 borders as a final outcome of a durable peace deal being put together, the Palestinians who oppose such a deal would be forced by their majority, and world opinion to fall in line and negotiate in good faith. Once the commitment to the 67 borders and complete peace is in place the mechanism of the time table, guarantees, nature of formalised relations etc etc can be thrashed out.
This is something Israel will not agree to right now. The window of this opportunity will not remain open for very long, and if it closes then the one state between the river and the sea, as predicted by the CIA will become a reality, and that isnt a bad outcome.

By: Doug Kraft

Doug Kraft — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 07:40:20 +0000

@Geoffrey…EXACTLY!

By: John Walker

John Walker — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 06:54:07 +0000

There is no Palestinian people. It's made up. There Arabs. In fact in the 30's and 40's et al if you talked about Palestinian people you meant the Jews. Geoffrey is correct as well about Jordan. Only then it was called Trans Jordan. Even if we wanted to make peace with some one please tell me who. Hamas? yea we saw in November what they want. Mazen? Won't even sit down to the table unless he gets his preconditions and the thing is he keeps adding conditions. Enough is enough.

Ravi why don't you go back and learn some history so you might know what your even talking about versus spouting rhetoric with out a shred of evidence to back it up.

By: Geoffrey Short

Geoffrey Short — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 19:01:09 +0000

The Palestinians already have a state. It's called Jordan!

By: Ravi Singh

Ravi Singh — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 18:47:48 +0000

Its not about the Israelis and the Arabs… its about the Israelis and the Palestinians.
The Palestinians lost 78% of their land in 1948…. and Israel keeps eating up chunks of the 22% they have left. thats simple greed. The arrogance is the Israeli belief that the world must support the Israeli land grab.