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		<title>By: David Ben-Ami</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Ben-Ami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can always be counted on, John, to come up with creative &quot;solutions&quot; to intractable problems. I appreciate your idealism. But once again the issues you address are far beyond your well-intended suggested solution. That the Jewish people are at great risk today worldwide (considered most severe since the Holocaust by Natan Sharansky, head of the Jewish Agency in Israel, and Moshe Kantor, head of the European Jewish Congress) is not just my own conclusion. And that&#039;s just antisemitism in the Diaspora. But Western antisemitism is not limited to the Jews &quot;at home.&quot; Now that the Holocaust is a distant memory, at least for the perpetrators, no longer an impediment to &quot;objectivity&quot; among the the gentile and the sophisticates; at a time of regional instability and heightened risk, Israel has assumed the medieval mantle of satanic in the eyes of her Western critics, and not just the traditional hypocrites of the left (England&#039;s professors; Scandinavian politicians) and the right (neo-fascist governments in Hungary, etc), but the EU-entire, the Killing Fields of Shoah. 

Yes Israel is refuge of last resort for Western Jewry. And yes Israel is under greater threat since before 1967. But ask yourself, John, What kind of message would Israel be broadcasting were she to even hint at the need for an outside &quot;insurer&quot;? Would that not, in itself, be an open invitation to hostile neighbors to test her, to see if the day was finally nigh to throw the Jews into the sea? 

Ironic, is it not John, that those who persecuted the Jews for two millennia, murdered six million Jews during the twentieth century making a sovereign refuge for the Jewish people necessary also imposed the humiliation of Imperialism on the region, the ancestral home of the Jews. And that today Israel is seen as a rump European imperial reminder, a modern version of the Christian Crusaders returned to Jerusalem. 

Considering how short a memory the West has, how little it holds itself responsible for the condition of the Jewish people; the Jews rely on the West to ensure our security?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can always be counted on, John, to come up with creative &quot;solutions&quot; to intractable problems. I appreciate your idealism. But once again the issues you address are far beyond your well-intended suggested solution. That the Jewish people are at great risk today worldwide (considered most severe since the Holocaust by Natan Sharansky, head of the Jewish Agency in Israel, and Moshe Kantor, head of the European Jewish Congress) is not just my own conclusion. And that&#039;s just antisemitism in the Diaspora. But Western antisemitism is not limited to the Jews &quot;at home.&quot; Now that the Holocaust is a distant memory, at least for the perpetrators, no longer an impediment to &quot;objectivity&quot; among the the gentile and the sophisticates; at a time of regional instability and heightened risk, Israel has assumed the medieval mantle of satanic in the eyes of her Western critics, and not just the traditional hypocrites of the left (England&#039;s professors; Scandinavian politicians) and the right (neo-fascist governments in Hungary, etc), but the EU-entire, the Killing Fields of Shoah. </p>
<p>Yes Israel is refuge of last resort for Western Jewry. And yes Israel is under greater threat since before 1967. But ask yourself, John, What kind of message would Israel be broadcasting were she to even hint at the need for an outside &quot;insurer&quot;? Would that not, in itself, be an open invitation to hostile neighbors to test her, to see if the day was finally nigh to throw the Jews into the sea? </p>
<p>Ironic, is it not John, that those who persecuted the Jews for two millennia, murdered six million Jews during the twentieth century making a sovereign refuge for the Jewish people necessary also imposed the humiliation of Imperialism on the region, the ancestral home of the Jews. And that today Israel is seen as a rump European imperial reminder, a modern version of the Christian Crusaders returned to Jerusalem. </p>
<p>Considering how short a memory the West has, how little it holds itself responsible for the condition of the Jewish people; the Jews rely on the West to ensure our security?</p>
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		<title>By: Yehudit Bat-yaacov</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/who-murdered-the-jews/#comment-107652</link>
		<dc:creator>Yehudit Bat-yaacov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are incorrect to say that Jews do not receive an anti-christian upbringing. To this day the ultra-orthodox in Jerusalem spit at passing priests. I myself, brought up in an almost-secular family, imbibed a sort of embarrassed horror of Christianiaity from the moment I was old enough to notice. Now, you may argue that this is the result of centuries of persecution. But it exists and we must stop being so self-righteous about ourselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are incorrect to say that Jews do not receive an anti-christian upbringing. To this day the ultra-orthodox in Jerusalem spit at passing priests. I myself, brought up in an almost-secular family, imbibed a sort of embarrassed horror of Christianiaity from the moment I was old enough to notice. Now, you may argue that this is the result of centuries of persecution. But it exists and we must stop being so self-righteous about ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/who-murdered-the-jews/#comment-107650</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems to me, David, that what might be the greatest asset for Jews these days is some form of group insurance policy and all the advantages that this would provide. 

The State of Israel may be regarded as the ultimate bastion from oppression and pogrom as far as worldwide Jewry is concerned. Only there might a degree of absolute security be obtained with some certainty.

But how to secure the safety of the State itself? Can it be insured and, if so, just who would take on such an awesome responsibility?

http://yorketowers.blogspot.com

The premiums here may, at first, appear to be very high. But, as the likelihood of a payout is really quite small, the risks involved can readily be offset against the long list of benefits that would accrue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me, David, that what might be the greatest asset for Jews these days is some form of group insurance policy and all the advantages that this would provide. </p>
<p>The State of Israel may be regarded as the ultimate bastion from oppression and pogrom as far as worldwide Jewry is concerned. Only there might a degree of absolute security be obtained with some certainty.</p>
<p>But how to secure the safety of the State itself? Can it be insured and, if so, just who would take on such an awesome responsibility?</p>
<p><a href="http://yorketowers.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://yorketowers.blogspot.com</a></p>
<p>The premiums here may, at first, appear to be very high. But, as the likelihood of a payout is really quite small, the risks involved can readily be offset against the long list of benefits that would accrue.</p>
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