Alexander Lutsenko
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Israel Is Studying Russian Weapons from Ukraine. That Changes the Conversation

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For years, the question in Israeli-Ukrainian relations has been familiar: what can Israel give Ukraine?

Air defense systems. Military technology. Protection against Iranian-designed drones. Ukrainian officials have repeatedly looked toward Israel as a country that knows how to defend its cities against rockets and other aerial threats.

Now a different question is emerging. What can Ukraine give Israel?

The answer may be sitting in an Israeli laboratory, in the form of Russian weapons recovered from the Ukrainian battlefield.

And the person who has confirmed that such exchanges are taking place is Michael Brodsky, Israel’s former ambassador to Ukraine.

A meeting in Jerusalem, and a revealing answer

On October 11, 2026, a delegation of Ukrainian journalists visited Israel’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Jerusalem.

The meeting brought together journalists and three Israeli officials: Michael Brodsky, who served as ambassador to Ukraine from 2021 to 2026; Alex Goldman-Shayman, head of a department within the Foreign Ministry’s Eurasia Division; and Hila Engelhard, representing the ministry’s economic affairs work.

The delegation’s visit also included Hadassah Hospital in Jerusalem and the memorial to the Holodomor, the devastating Soviet-imposed famine in Ukraine in 1932–1933.

The visit brought together several important subjects in Israeli-Ukrainian relations: diplomacy, historical memory, medicine and the experience of countries living under the threat of war.

Two days later, on October 13, the Ukrainian publication Ekonomichna Pravda reported a particularly significant part of Brodsky’s conversation with journalists at the Israeli Foreign Ministry.

The question was specific: had Israel approached Ukraine to obtain samples of Russia’s new jet-powered Geran-5 attack drone?

Brodsky’s answer, translated from the publication’s Russian-language report, was:

“Without going into details, such cooperation does exist. We have received weapon samples for examination.”

The publication described the conversation as taking place at the Israeli Foreign Ministry. It did not identify the journalist who asked the question or specify whether its own correspondent had attended in person.

The timing, location and subject strongly suggest a connection with the Ukrainian journalists’ visit reported on October 11.

There is also a distinction worth preserving. Brodsky confirmed that Israel had received weapon samples from Ukraine for examination. He did not identify the precise systems or explicitly confirm that a Geran-5 itself had been delivered.

That does not make his statement less important. It makes it more necessary to understand exactly what he was saying.

Why the Geran-5 matters to Israel

Israelis know the name Shahed. Iranian-designed drones have become part of the security vocabulary of the Middle East, and Russia has used related systems extensively against Ukraine.

But the Geran-5 represents a different technological challenge.

Unlike the familiar propeller-driven Shahed-136, this Russian attack drone uses a turbojet engine. According to Ukraine’s Defense Intelligence Directorate, it has a cruising speed of approximately 450–600 kilometers per hour, an estimated range of 950 kilometers and a 90-kilogram warhead.

Its fuselage is about 6.5 meters long.

The Ukrainian investigation identified a Chinese-made TELEFLY engine, a Russian Kometa-M12 satellite navigation system and electronic components originating from several countries, including the United States and Germany.

These details matter because a drone’s design tells investigators more than how it flies. Its electronics, navigation equipment and communications systems help reveal how the weapon could be detected, disrupted or intercepted.

Ukraine’s military intelligence has also identified design similarities between the Geran-5 and Iran’s Karrar jet-powered unmanned aircraft.

For Israel, that connection is difficult to ignore.

Iran is not an abstract actor in Israel’s security calculations. Iranian weapons and technologies have shaped threats confronting Israel directly and through armed organizations supported by Tehran.

Yet we should be precise. Similarities between the Geran-5 and Karrar do not establish that the Russian drone is already operated by Hezbollah, Hamas or any other organization fighting Israel.

The danger Brodsky described is about the possible spread of technology, not a confirmed transfer of this particular weapon.

That is precisely why studying it before such a transfer might occur makes sense.

The threat is changing faster than the defenses

The Geran-5’s speed is only part of the problem.

On October 13, Business Insider reported that Russia had begun equipping its jet-powered Geran-4 and Geran-5 variants with an optical navigation system known as Susanin.

Instead of depending entirely on satellite positioning, the system compares images captured by an onboard camera with previously stored pictures of the terrain.

This resembles navigation methods used in some cruise missiles.

Traditional electronic jamming can interfere with satellite signals and communications. A drone capable of recognizing terrain presents a different challenge, although optical navigation also has limitations, particularly in poor visibility.

For Israeli planners, the lesson is broader than a single Russian aircraft.

Potential adversaries are not standing still. They are adapting navigation, improving engines and combining relatively inexpensive components in increasingly capable weapons.

The question is not simply whether Iron Dome can intercept another drone. It is whether the entire defensive system can keep adapting as the threat changes.

Ukraine is learning how to destroy these drones

I find the Ukrainian side of this story especially interesting.

Ukraine is no longer only recovering Russian weapons and sending their components to laboratories. Its engineers are developing interceptors designed specifically to destroy them.

On September 30, the Ukrainian company SkyFall presented footage of a Geran-5 being intercepted by its P1-SUN JetKiller drone, operated by personnel from Lasar’s Group, a specialized Ukrainian National Guard unit.

Then, on October 12, former Ukrainian defense minister Mykhailo Fedorov reported that another newly developed Ukrainian interceptor had destroyed two Geran-5 drones approaching Kyiv.

According to Fedorov, only about a month had passed between the start of development and the first confirmed interceptions. Further testing and improvements are continuing.

On October 13, Business Insider separately reported on this new interceptor and Fedorov’s ambition to make future versions increasingly autonomous.

We should not confuse the two Ukrainian projects or assume that either has already been transferred to Israel.

But their significance is clear.

Ukraine is confronting Russian weapons in real combat. Its engineers can study what survived an interception, examine what failed, redesign their equipment and test the result against the next attack.

That cycle of battlefield experience, engineering and rapid modification is something that no laboratory can completely reproduce.

And Israel understands the value of such experience better than most countries.

Israel has lasers. Ukraine has the battlefield evidence.

Israel has spent decades building a sophisticated, multi-layered air-defense network.

Iron Dome protects against many short-range aerial threats. David’s Sling and Arrow address other categories of missiles and attacks. Each system has its own operational role.

In December 2025, the Israeli Ministry of Defense and Rafael delivered the first Iron Beam high-energy laser system to the Israel Defense Forces.

The system, known in Hebrew as Or Eitan, was designed to complement existing missile defenses, rather than replace them.

In June 2026, the ministry announced additional Iron Dome tests that included scenarios integrating Iron Beam into the air-defense command system.

Those developments are important achievements. They are not evidence that Iron Beam has already demonstrated successful interception of the Geran-5 specifically.

Nor is a laser automatically the answer to every drone. Weather, visibility, range, target characteristics and the number of simultaneous threats all affect defensive planning.

This is where Ukraine’s experience becomes particularly relevant.

Israeli industry can provide advanced sensors, weapons, engineering and systems integration. Ukraine can contribute something different: recent experience of what Russian weapons actually do in combat, how they evolve and which countermeasures have worked under pressure.

At NAnews — Israel News | Nikk.Agency, we have followed this discussion for some time.

In June 2026, Brodsky spoke about air defense, drones, military technologies and the difficult expectations Israel and Ukraine had developed toward each other during an extensive interview with Ukrainian journalist Yuriy Romanenko.

At that time, military-technological cooperation was discussed largely as a promising direction.

His October statement gives that discussion a more concrete dimension.

A relationship that has been difficult to define

There is a political difficulty here that deserves attention.

Since Russia launched its full-scale invasion in February 2022, Ukrainian expectations of Israel have often been greater than what successive Israeli governments were prepared to provide.

The Iron Dome became a symbol of that disappointment.

From Kyiv, the idea seemed straightforward: Israel possesses advanced air-defense technology, and Ukrainian cities are being bombarded. Why not provide the systems?

From Jerusalem, the calculation was more complicated. Different defensive requirements, available inventories, political considerations and concerns about Russia all influenced Israeli decisions.

Neither country fully understood the other’s limitations.

But the wars have also forced both societies to reconsider assumptions.

Ukraine has developed an extensive defense-technology ecosystem under conditions of sustained attack. Israel has faced its own expanding drone and missile threats, particularly from Iran and armed groups operating in the region.

Their wars are not identical. The geography, adversaries, military structures and political circumstances differ enormously.

Still, the technological problems increasingly overlap.

The older debate concentrated on what Israel was unwilling or unable to supply. The newer one should also ask what Ukraine has learned that Israel needs to understand.

There is no need to romanticize this shift. Brodsky did not announce a military alliance, a joint interceptor-production agreement or an Israeli purchase of Ukrainian drones.

He confirmed something narrower: Israel has obtained weapons samples from Ukraine for examination.

But practical cooperation often begins with precisely such exchanges, long before governments are willing to describe the relationship in more ambitious terms.

What should happen next?

If Israel is examining Russian weapons recovered in Ukraine, I would like to see this cooperation develop beyond individual samples.

Not necessarily through public announcements. Defense cooperation is not measured by the number of press conferences.

The real value lies in sustained technical contact: understanding how threats evolve, sharing findings where possible and learning from what works — and fails — in combat.

There is another lesson that Israel should not overlook.

Russia’s war against Ukraine and the threats Israel faces from Iran cannot be treated as completely separate technological stories. Weapons designs, electronic components, engineering expertise and manufacturing methods can cross borders even when the political relationships behind them remain complicated.

The challenge is to recognize those connections without claiming that every Russian weapon has already appeared in the Middle East.

For years, Ukraine was frequently described in Israel as a country seeking protection.

It still needs protection. Russian missiles and drones continue to strike Ukrainian cities.

But Ukraine is also becoming a source of knowledge about modern warfare — knowledge acquired at a terrible human cost.

I do not think that means Israel should copy Ukraine’s solutions. Israel has its own operational environment, defense industries and technological advantages.

It means Israel should take Ukrainian experience seriously on its own merits.

Sometimes a change in international relations is announced through an agreement, an official visit or a joint statement.

This time, it may be visible in something far less ceremonial: a Russian drone component, recovered in Ukraine, examined by Israeli specialists, and used to understand a threat that could one day reach Israel’s skies.

About the Author
Aleksandr Lutsenko is a commentator bridging Israeli and Ukrainian public discourse. He writes on shared history, Jewish life in Ukraine, Ukrainian integration in Israel, and the intersection of memory, identity, and security.
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